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Old 06-02-2015, 07:36 PM   #1
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The Dirt Squirrel's Hideout - My 40x80x14 Shop Build

This will be slow for the next 3-6 months, as Im still offshore and have yet to order the building itself. I plan on going with a 40x80x14 steel building to replace two 75-year old wooden barns that I have been using to build and store **** at my house since I moved in 7+ years ago. The time has finally come to build something new.

The shop will be 80ft in length but the first bay will be 20ft inset in order for me to park my truck and DD under instead of leaving it out under a tree in the driveway. My house had a single car garage that was converted into a 4th bedroom several owners ago. The new shop will also have a 15x60 lean-to off of one side to store lawn mowers, random ****, etc under.

Some plans for the shop:
40x80x14 w/ 20ft inset bay (Dark blue with white trim to match the house)
15x60 lean-to off of one side
2-14x12 roll-up doors on the front
1-14x12 roll-up door on the back gable
2:12 slope
Fully Insulated
2-post lift
15x10 storage loft

Here is the my spread. 4 acres with two dry ponds (I plan on making the two into one and installing a wind mill to keep them full; wind blows like a mofo out here on the prairie)
This is a google earth view with the green lines being the house and backyard fencing. You can see the proposed location of the new shop on top of one of the old barns. I will salvage the tin and wood from the barns to use in the new shop.


I have been playing around with several free building design programs while offshore and this is what I have come up with. My shop will be a combo on the following:

From Mueller metal buildings (The free software wouldn't let me design the inset bay so this is just a 40x60x14 with the lean-to)


From Icon Buildings free software: (For some reason this software wont let me include a lean-to but lets me do the inset bay.)

Front:


Back:


This is kinda what I have planned for the interior. I need room for the following:

1. My crawler ('82 Toyota soon to be truggy)
2. Dads 55' Ford Customline 2-door project
3. Brothers '80 Cj-5
4. two riding lawn mowers (probably under the lean-to)
5. Future go-fast car project

The dirt squirrel ('82 Toyota on 44s, 6.0l LQ4, 1-tons, pure awesome)


My '79 Yota DD on Tacoma frame 2rz, 5-speed (Will be parked under the covered portion when not in use):


Ignore the Ferraris as the floorplanner.com program didn't have anything else cool to use.

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I put the 2-post lift near the back door. My thoughts were that even though its far away from the work bench, its out of the way and I can still drive a truck through the shop and work on it. I setup the rollup doors so I can drive a truck and trailer through without having to back in.

Back corner will be a storage loft over the dirty part of the shop. Underneath will be the chop saw, drill press, bench grinder, etc. Hopefully this will keep the dust in the shop confined in that space. Everything else is self explanatory. Shop will have a wood burning stove for the "winter" and fans to cool things down in the summer. Building will be insulated top to bottom.

2nd Isometric 3d interior pic:


3rd Interior:


Any thoughts, opinions, or ideas? This will be my first real shop, so any advice would be helpful. Im about 45 minutes SW of Houston, so If anyone has a hookup on concrete, contractors, vendors, suppliers, etc, let me know. Im not set on what brand of building im going with, but will take quotes from a few places when I get back. Im leaning towards Mueller as they have a huge office 15-mins down the street from my house. I hope to get everything installed for $50k budget. (I may be crazy there as I really don't know how much any of this will cost)
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My father in law is at Mueller new braunfels. He will tell you straight as an arrow and would tell you all you need to know. He has a good idea of what it's like to keep fun stuff cause he sees all mine. We have discussed shops several times. He's been doing it for 20 years, give him a call. Chuck bell and im Matt.
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Matt, Thanks. I will definitely do that.
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Keep it at 40' for sure. Once you go over 40' wide the price goes WAY up. My brother worked for mueller till about 8 months ago. I wanted to build a 60x80 and for what it cost I could have got 2 - 40x60's built cheaper than the one 60x80.
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40ft wide is all I need for sure. I think 2400 sq/ft will be plenty for what I have planned with room to spare.
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This is fawking awesome. I'm in the early stages of planning to build something very similar but I may stay at a 40x60 while adding a ~20' slab off the side for bbqing and shooting the **** later. My buddy already gave me a price for the concrete slab which was about ~$4500 for material and labor. How is that comparing to what you've seen? Another guy quoted me $6800. This would be a 4" slab. What thickness you planning to go with?


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Ive seen prices for concrete from $90 to $120 per SY. I am hoping to get the slab poured for less than $10k and that includes dirt work and a gravel driveway. Ill go with 4" everywhere except where the lift will go. That area will be 6"
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Sure. Anyone can call him. I'm sure he would appreciate the business as it's commission based.
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Would 4" be adequate for a shop , that's driveway depth? If think you'd want it thicker than that. I just had some driveway poured, 4" thick one area 22x21 and another 24x28 and paid $3300 for it.
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That's sort of my question too? Would 4" thick be sufficient? I plan to have vehicles in it but don't plan install a lift. You paid 3300 for 1134 sq ft? I was quoted 4500 for 2400 sq ft...I still thought that was expensive...need to find me some messicans
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David, is that just for the concrete, or everything else included? Ie rebar, forms, etc?

With the edge beam all the way around and 4" concrete, I am betting my slab will be close to $10k, if not more.
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And from everything that I have been reading says 4" is plenty for a garage floor and 6" where a lift will go. Ill leave it up to the concrete contractor and building vendor for their recommendations. I don't want to regret going to thin and then having it crack a few years later. I live on black farm land so things shift pretty regularly.
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4" is standard. My dad has a 40x80x14 and he poured 4" everywhere besides where his 2 post is. It is 6" there and that's not even necessary. My personal shop is 4", even where my lift is.
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How much was the concrete work if you don't mind me asking? Ball park figure. Ive been reading all kinds of crazy numbers. One guy on pirate said my slab would cost almost $20k.
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How much was the concrete work if you don't mind me asking? Ball park figure. Ive been reading all kinds of crazy numbers. One guy on pirate said my slab would cost almost $20k.
I'd have to ask him. He skipped the contractor deal. He ordered the building out of some outfit in Houston. I think it was $15k+ for it. The guy that did the slab ended up assembling it also. I think by the time he wired it, he is in it 30-35kish. Not to step on any toes, but Mueller is the most expensive place to buy from.
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Yeah it is, from what I have found. Icon buildings in Seguin is close. Like I said earlier, Im not set on any one particular building manufacturer. Where in Houston did he order the building from?
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Yeah it is, from what I have found. Icon buildings in Seguin is close. Like I said earlier, Im not set on any one particular building manufacturer. Where in Houston did he order the building from?
I'll ask him. Keep in mid these were 2008 prices. It is a nice quality building though. I'll let you know what I find out.
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I'd have to ask him. He skipped the contractor deal. He ordered the building out of some outfit in Houston. I think it was $15k+ for it. The guy that did the slab ended up assembling it also. I think by the time he wired it, he is in it 30-35kish. Not to step on any toes, but Mueller is the most expensive place to buy from.


Mueller is very expensive even with my brothers hook up. That's why I never built mine.



Alex, ive always heard you could take the price of your building and pretty much expect to spend that much if not more on your slab.
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Fawk, if that's the case, according to Mueller that will be a $30k slab. hahaha
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Im not opposed to going stick build either.
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That price was for OTD price but he's a good buddy of mine.



That's a whole lot of money. My wife's cousin/ youngest daughter's godfather runs a construction company so I may go through for the actual building purchase/ install.
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I priced one to my specs at $26k for a 40x80x14 fully insulated w/ 3- 14x12 rollup doors.

Have you used them personally?
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It was manufactured by Rigid buildings in Houston. There are only a few actual factories where they fabricate components, and they make stuff for everyone else (Mueller for instance). They didn't sell retail at that time, so he got it through a broker on the internet. Their website Metal Buildings | Steel Buildings | Rigid Building, makes it look like they sell retail now.

He doesn't remember slab cost but it was around $80 a yard. Plus he had to have a pumper truck.
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I priced one to my specs at $26k for a 40x80x14 fully insulated w/ 3- 14x12 rollup doors.

Have you used them personally?
no I have not, but when I build mine, that is who I am going with.
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