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Old 07-15-2013, 01:15 PM   #51
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:25 PM   #52
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Small Update

So its been very busy and I have not got a lot done, BUT I did get the front end mocked up finally! Had to trim the front body mount and drill a new hole for the ORD FUSH.



This is what it looks like with the new springs, the Superduty springs raised it right at 3" from where the factory flat sprigs had it. It also kept the axle within a .5" of stock.


And just for fun a link to a time lapse i made to try out a new app i found. Had to link it because im still trying to figure out how to insert youtube videos.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:33 PM   #53
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Well finally have some updates worth posting. I have been slowly re-drilling some holes and getting everything bolted up. Then I washed down the frame a little about a week ago. Then I started to tear down the R3500! On Saturday my brother stopped by and helped me pull the engine and transmission and drop them in the V3500 frame.

Then I spent the next few days working on it when I had time and got all the fuel lines and fuel tank pulled and all the wiring free of the frame. The goal is to swap the cabs this weekend so we will see how that pans out. Also mocked up the fender and it is a lot taller then I had expected, we will see how much the cab drops it down and if nothing else it's room for bigger tires!

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Old 01-25-2014, 09:28 PM   #55
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Made a good deal of progress today, got the 2wd frame out and got the cab landed on the 4wd frame! I have a few stubborn body mounts to line up and start running the wiring back and hook up the engine. Also need to dispose of the old 2wd frame. Now to the pics!

Cab free of the old frame.


Two man bed removal


Bed off finally!


2wd frame out, ready for 4wd!


Cab landed.


Not exactly sure how much lift it has but the roof is at 77" and it looks like it's about 3-4" of lift...ish
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Short time lapse from frame swap. (Anyone know how to imbed the videos?)

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Well, got a little done over the last few days. I got a notice from the city, I guess someone didn't like my bed sitting next to my driveway. So I went ahead and installed the bed, mounted the fuel tank and bleed the brakes. I also made the factory front bumper fit back on. I couldn't resist taking it for a spin so I made a quick trip around the block. I took it very easy and didn't break 10 mph but it was a good feeling.*




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Hey Matt
It's looking good.
I'm not that far on mine but I did get it inside & have made some progress.
Are you still in town ?

P.S. that frame still looks better in your driveway than mine !!!
I don't see the blazer in the drive either
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Hey Matt
It's looking good.
I'm not that far on mine but I did get it inside & have made some progress.
Are you still in town ?

P.S. that frame still looks better in your driveway than mine !!!
I don't see the blazer in the drive either
Thanks buddy, i just left for work and wont be back until mid March. I finally got rid of that blazer and and that will go to a NV4500. I found one and now i'm waiting on a guy to pull it, its a 4wd NV4500 (+95). He said he would hold it until i got back so im hoping he is good on his word.

Good deal on getting your truck inside to work on it! When I get back I will come by and check it out. Also if you need that steering box before i get back let me know and i will have the wife bring it out to ya.
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:15 PM   #62
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So I have not done very much but I have got some parts and I'm waiting for a few other things to show up.

Parts ordered-
- Degree shims for front and rear
- U-bolt flip and a lift block for rear
- Front 2" lift springs
- Rear shocks
- Misc Poly bushings

I also got my front U-bolt plates worked out (thanks BlazerBoy) and picked up my 4wd NV4500. Had to change out my carrier bearing crossmember due to angle issues. And installed one side of my rear assist handles.

Pass U-bolt plate installed

Assist handle

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Old 04-07-2014, 10:31 PM   #63
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Have not gotten anything major done but I have made some small progress. Last week I took the truck for a drive after changing the kingpin bushings and springs. During the drive I experienced bad death wobble, I'm not sure if it would have done it with the old bushings and springs but I think it would have. So after some searching and thinking I decided to try the cheapest fixes first. One of the threads I had seen mentioned adding a washer under the kingpin cap to add preload, so a trip to Homedepot and about $2.50 and I had two 5/8" washers that have a dia of just under 2" and a thickness of .17". I installed them and took it for a spin and I won't say that it fixed it but I hit every bump I could find at speeds from slow to 45mph (no rear shocks so don't want to push it) and no death wobble.

Then today I when to the salvage yards and picked up a few things, got a set of front climb assist handles, a VSS sensor for my VSS'ed 205 project, two of the steel GM power steering remote resistors, and a '94 xj steering shaft.

I cleaned up the xj shaft and started working on installing it, it went in fairly easy but I did have to heat it up more than I planned to get it to collapse. After it was in I took the truck for another spin and could definitely tell a difference. Now I just need to rebuild my box and it should steer great! This is the only pic I have from today... And its after the shaft install.


Hope to get a few other things done before I have to go back to work, but we will see...

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Old 05-26-2014, 01:10 PM   #64
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Rear shock mounting question...

Ok, looking for opinions.

I have been at work thinking over my rear shock options and this is what I have come down to. Now I am just looking for some input.

I'm going to be running a 40gal suburban tank, so that means that the stock "staggard" shock arrangement wont work. Also the center section casting on my soon to be swapped in dana70"s" is so wide that it means i almost have to go outside the frame rails. This is not a problem for me because this is not going to be a "flexy" truck.

So the question, which of the two mounts do you think would work better. The one on the left is similar to what the Ford Raptor uses and the one on the right is similar to the stock one. And secondly should I stagger the shocks front to back or point them both in the same direction front or back? Here is a quick rough out of the two mount styles.



I want the rear of this truck to be as stable as possible and if that means i sacrifice some flex i'm fine with that. Any thoughs would be great!
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:21 PM   #65
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I vote for the first option.

To me it seams like supporting both ends of the shaft/bolt would keep it from bending more than the second option. Not that they would be under a lot of stress being a street only rig.

Just my two cents but I don't claim to be no engineer.


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Double shear is always better, not necessarily needed but stronger. I would personally say put them the same direction, but not real sure on direction. Usually they go forward on a rear axle so as to follow the natural arc of travel. But sense it's leaf sprung I don't know if it matters.
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I vote for the first option.

To me it seams like supporting both ends of the shaft/bolt would keep it from bending more than the second option. Not that they would be under a lot of stress being a street only rig.

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OUCH! Never said it was a street only rig, just that it was not going to be a hardcore crawler! Hahaha

I feel the same way about the double shear being stronger, and the more i think about it at least the bolt is replaceable. On the second option it wouldn't be, unless it was cut out and re-welded. I'm leaning towards mounting them both facing forward. That way I could tie them together with some sort of crossmember.
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:24 PM   #68
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NV4500 to NP205 Adapter is Ready!

So I picked up my adapter from Fawker Fab a few days ago and got it bolted up! It fits great now I just need to get a few more things ready to swap in the NV4500 and i will have some install pics. But until then here are some bolt up pics.






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Long overdue update... Kinda

So it has been slow going with work and family, so this update will cover what i was able to get done over my last rotation home.

I received my new steering stabilizer, not sure if i will go hydro assist yet or not but for now this will work. Was originally for a 03-07 Ram 2500. Also in the pic you can see the degree shim and I added a leaf from the stock front pack.




I broke down and bought some cheap rear shocks for a 2004 Ford SD so i would at least have shocks on the rear.




Then i started on installing my 40gal suburban tank. Started by moving the rear frame crossmember as far back as possible and adding a little material to make better contact with the tank.





The front two crossmembers, one is for the tank straps to connect to and the other is what the tank pulls up against when its all tight.





Here is the tank installed and a pic of the diff cover to tank clearance. Good thing I wont be jumping this truck! Also pics of the fuel lines and crossovers I used to connect the rubber line to the sending unit fittings and the fill neck clearance under the bed. Will probably have to take out a small section of the support under the bed floor.



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Long overdue update... Kinda. part 2

I also got one side of my outboard shock mount finished. I still need to weld on the axle side and check for clearance then build the the other side. All things considered I don't think its to bad for being build from scrap and a beginner welding project.



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It's coming together nicely, I especially like the seats and grab handles. Do you still have the seats bolted down using the flat tabs on the stock rails? How has the seat height been with it set up that way?
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Thanks! Currently i still have the seats on the plate, its not outragusly high. Saying that i still plan on dropping them down about 3-4", i'm not very tall so it is not the most comfortable reaching the pedals.

Also with as high as they sit it is a little challenging to get in and out, now that it is up in the air. The two options I am looking at is going to a blazer style floor pan, or just sectioning out what I need from the factory floor. I am still undecided because i'm trying to figure out how to do the carpet/rubber flooring.

If your over about 6 foot it probably wouldn't be to bad, but im 5'8" on a good day so it is on the list of things to do.
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Thanks! Currently i still have the seats on the plate, its not outragusly high. Saying that i still plan on dropping them down about 3-4", i'm not very tall so it is not the most comfortable reaching the pedals.

Also with as high as they sit it is a little challenging to get in and out, now that it is up in the air. The two options I am looking at is going to a blazer style floor pan, or just sectioning out what I need from the factory floor. I am still undecided because i'm trying to figure out how to do the carpet/rubber flooring.

If your over about 6 foot it probably wouldn't be to bad, but im 5'8" on a good day so it is on the list of things to do.
K5 floor is a great idea. Seems like that would be cleaner than cutting and patching the current floor but I've never done it before so I could be completely off. I may have to try some with the flat plate to see how they work on mine. The poor bench seats that came in my crews are not very good seats, haha.
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Been a while

Updates...

Well I finally got around to finishing my outboard shock mounts, go the tabs welded to the axle and took it for a short spin. Rides a lot better but I think it will be even better with the bed on. Right now I'm running stock 2004 superduty replacement shocks on the rear, I have plenty of travel for my application.




I moved the fuel door behind the wheel well similar to a suburban. I still need to work on a fill neck to tie it together, but here is my amateur attempt at body work.


Here is a shot of the truck with the bed back on, the new fuel door is on the passenger side and I don't have a pic of that side right now.


I was finally able to find someone to buy my stock 5.7l so 3 days before i had to go back to work we pulled it. So now I have a pile of clutch parts for the NV4500 swap waiting on me to get home.




Also, I want to get some opinions on this steering wheel. I stole it off of a 2001, I like the feel of it and I think I like the look. Still on the fence!


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