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Old 07-17-2008, 06:13 PM   #1
 
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...well.....it would appear that the incident over the 4th of July did
in fact, involve a close friend of mine....I am speaking on his behalf for three reasons with this post....before I state those reasons, let me say that I have only heard his side of the story, so please don't prejudge my position in regards
to the incident....I also understand there was alcohol involved by both sides...

reason one....Sparky(the person accused) is a dear friend of mine AND has been a member of the CRRC since the beginning.....

reason two....Sparky is currently incarcerated and cannot defend himself from said accusations(he unfortunately caught a DWI charge yesterday)

reason three....I can honestly say that if I found myself outnumbered with no one around to help, and I was armed, I would use deadly force to defend myself, or at least the threat of deadly force....drunk or sober....

...now, please remember, I only have one side of the story...and this is the version I got.....Sparky came by my house after the 4th(I had been out of town) and informed me that he managed to get his dad's K5 Blazer stuck at the river over the holiday weekend...he said that a group of guys(at least 2 rigs and 5 or 6 people) in a white WJ jeep and a green ZJ and ? offered assistance to free the stuck K5....Sparky then informed me that at some point during the attempted recovery, one or more of the folks realized that Sparky was a member of the CRRC and a friend of mine...at that, according to Sparky, the person or persons started trash talking on the CRRC and even more so on me....I asked Sparky why they would trash talk on me or even the CRRC, and his reply was that they felt that the CRRC was a joke, and that my old rig(the 52" shod K5) was junk..I quote" Greg doesn't know how to build a rig".....various other insults were exchanged, the situation escalated and, according to Sparky, he left his dad's rig stuck and walked off to seek help from someone else....he made no mention of pulling a knife or throwing punches or any thing of the sort...

....I guess Cheeperjeeper or who ever was there can give me their version if they feel like doing so, but untill I or any other member of the CRRC knows any different, I will choose to believe Sparky's version, since he was defending his friend and club..

..and before everyone gets all pissy, ask yourself this....no matter how you end up in a situation, if you found yourself outnumbered and being threatened, what would you do? .......honestly?.....

..I understand there are two sides to this, and I VERY MUCH understand that violence is, well, violent......but if a group of drunk people(even just two or three) want to test me or mine, be prepared to have you *** handed to you in one way or another....

...that being said, I spoke a little to a couple of the guys wheeling the green ZJ this past sunday while we were all on Hang On Hill, and they seemed okay, so I would really like to hear from someone on their side....
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before i start in on this........because right now im so pissed i cant type. is rastus going to ban me for what im about to say? ive heard you have to watch yourself on here because certain people like the power of being able to ban others.
Nope, I'm not banning anybody.. that is unless you or anyone else try to drag Texas4x4.org into this squabble.

I'd like to know who the certain people are who have a power trip going on tho.. as in who told you that and what irrefutable proof do you have?
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This is so funny, Rastus has made almost nothing but jokes so far, well in most of his post anyway.
The only person that said anything about banning someone was me, and I was only "trying" to make a joke when I wrote it.
It sounded like you was trying to trash our site by saying we we was all knife toting Hicks.
Zach tried to tell you not to worry about one small thing and the river was still a good place and fools are everywhere. In other words COME OUT AND WHEEL WITH US THIS OCT., WE CAN STILL HAVE FUN. But for some reason you brought our web site into.
If someone pulled a knife on me I would post up about it, and no one is saying you can't do that, but ask stupid questions like is this what our web site likes to do for fun is BS and you know it.
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I get a phone call while im at work at about 4:30 sat morning of the 4th. a couple of friends are stuck. i get off about 5:30 and head to the river to see if i can help. i show up at the river and see about 9 or 10 people standing around drinking and a jeep stuck in the river. im standing around drinking and some drunk stumbling guy(sparky) comes walking up talking **** on how he could have made it through the mud hole if he was driving. im laughing at the guy along with everyone else because he cant even stand up hes so drunk. he finally decides to show off his driving skills next to the stuck jeep. he picks the deepest hole and the tallest ledge to try.

Long story short he makes it about 10 f****** feet. it was f****** funny. we are all laughing and his girlfriend is telling him how stupid he is and he gets mad. i drive the heaviest truck out there so i go to help him. we hook up and full throttle i jerk the **** out of him and he moves about a foot. we go again and i jerk even harder(im in my 02 powerstroke with a 140 horse chip turned all the way up if this helps you imagine how hard im pulling on him). the strap breaks this time. he says he has another tow strap. so im fine with pulling on him because he is moving a little each time. well the dumbass ties the strap to the shackle(clevis) not telling anyone and i jerk on his blazer full f****** throttle again and guess what? his boyscout knot didnt hold and the strap breaks....so i thought but no wait.......the dumbass didnt lock the shackle(clevis) in so the whole thing slingshots back and almost took the head off of a 13 year old girl and slams into the tailgate of my truck caving in my tailgate.

Im done helping the guy. im mad but not so mad that i say anything. i let it go. well he gets mad that no one is going to help him so he takes off walking. he comes strolling back with a huge tow rope he claims he stole out of a suburban. he gets even more mad when he finds out we are done helping even with a new tow strap. he says he will go find his real friends to pull him out. we tryed to tell him we have help on the way if he would chill out and wait. he got a little mouthy and a buddy of mine pretty much tells him to shut his mouth. i cant explain how he is acting but its like he is on crack or something.....fast walking around locking his blazer and talking ****. he finally pulls a knife out of his blazer and walks over to us ask if we have a problem. i told him i do now. i tryed for 2 hours to pull your *** out and you f***** up my truck and then you get mad and pull a knife out. "go get your friends"

he leaves and shows back up with a bunch of rigs with winches and they pull him out and he drives off cussing at us saying he would pull us out for 500 bucks and it must be nice to have friends and all kinds of trash talking. ezredj i dont remember your name being said unless he said it and i know for a fact nothing was said about the crrc. that was never even brought up. so theres your story and if he is such a stand up guy why is he in jail? none of us are in jail.....we are all living free and going to work everyday! rastus if i need to change the "dumbass" word for name calling sake i will just let me know.
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This is so funny, Rastus has made almost nothing but jokes so far, well in most of his post anyway.
The only person that said anything about banning someone was me, and I was only "trying" to make a joke when I wrote it.
It sounded like you was trying to trash our site by saying we we was all knife toting Hicks.
Zach tried to tell you not to worry about one small thing and the river was still a good place and fools are everywhere. In other words COME OUT AND WHEEL WITH US THIS OCT., WE CAN STILL HAVE FUN. But for some reason you brought our web site into.
If someone pulled a knife on me I would post up about it, and no one is saying you can't do that, but ask stupid questions like is this what our web site likes to do for fun is BS and you know it.
your pulling **** out of your ***. your one of those guys that exaggerate everything, i can already tell.
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before i start in on this........because right now im so pissed i cant type. is rastus going to ban me for what im about to say? ive heard you have to watch yourself on here because certain people like the power of being able to ban others.
......get drunk and come by my house sometime...while you're at it, trashtalk to me, to my face...see how far it gets you...

...seriously, can you start to see how ridiculous this can get?

I am through playing games.....so, I will put you in your place the best way I know how, tough guy......come out to the river this sunday and I will challenge your rig against mine...no drunk crap or weapons, just wheelin'....what do you say?
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well he frightened me and my buddies acting like he did with a knife in his hand. i hope this isnt the kind of behavior this website promotes.
Exaggerates everything? Your the one that is to frightened to go the river.

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You didn't sound frightened here.
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......get drunk and come by my house sometime...while you're at it, trashtalk to me, to my face...see how far it gets you...

...seriously, can you start to see how ridiculous this can get?

I am through playing games.....so, I will put you in your place the best way I know how, tough guy......come out to the river this sunday and I will challenge your rig against mine...no drunk crap or weapons, just wheelin'....what do you say?

wtf?? i wanna play... what are you in highschool and have something to proove or what?
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......get drunk and come by my house sometime...while you're at it, trashtalk to me, to my face...see how far it gets you...

...seriously, can you start to see how ridiculous this can get?

I am through playing games.....so, I will put you in your place the best way I know how, tough guy......come out to the river this sunday and I will challenge your rig against mine...no drunk crap or weapons, just wheelin'....what do you say?
"my jeep is bigger than yours i can crawl over rocks you cant"........oh wait no it isnt and no you cant. i would squash that little red whatever it is.
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your pulling **** out of your ***. your one of those guys that exaggerate everything, i can already tell.
I do have problem here. Mudgod made a clear statement explaining the previous posts, and you chose to jump his ***? dude, I know you are pissed right now, but calling MG out is def not cool. Not only is he a good friend, he's a damn fine stand up guy. you owe him a apology.
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Your side of the story was fine, I saw nothing wrong with it and neither did Rastus. You and EZ have your own beef. Take it elsewhere. You're getting "jumped" because you're dragging other people (Mudgod) into your pissing match.
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So we see, I was all for giving you the benefit of the doubt. Well, I learned my lesson.
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