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Old 12-03-2010, 10:14 PM   #1
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update on inspections

after all the guestions about this and the curiostiy of why the change, and when
i called my boss and there are some changes that i need to add,

the start date is sept 1, 2011
and the new law does effect all commercial and personal truck and trailers
that have a gross weight of 10,001lb or more however the law is only if the truck, trailer and load travel across state lines, so those of us that are just hauling to the river or here in state dont have to worry about it, if we go to
Okla. , n.m. , Colo. , wherever then we have to pay to get the inspection

the inspection cost the same as your normal inspection 14.50 and any state inspector can do it...

out of state members have to have a federal inspection and any federal inspector can do it they are a little more expensive i don't know the price right off hand, almost all truck shops have a federal inspector,

sorry it took so long to find out more info been busy and didn't think to ask my boss, who would've thought he would know anymore than me he don't even do the inspections lol
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:34 AM   #2
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from http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/publ...l/chapter6.htm

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Compulsory Inspection of Commercial Motor Vehicle

1. The term “commercial motor vehicle” means a self-propelled or towed vehicle, used to transport persons or property that is used on a public highway to transport passengers or cargo if:

a. The vehicle or combination of vehicles has a gross weight, registered weight, or gross weight rating of more than 26,000 pounds; or

b. The vehicle is a farm vehicle with a gross weight, a registered weight, or a gross weight rating of more than 48,000 pounds; or

c. The vehicle is designed to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver; or

d. The vehicle is used to transport hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placarding by a regulation issued under the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act; or

e. The vehicle or combination of vehicles has a gross weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds and is operated in interstate commerce and registered in this state.

2. A commercial motor vehicle that is registered in this state shall be required to pass an annual inspection of all safety equipment required by the Federal Safety Regulations.

3. A commercial motor vehicle required to be inspected under the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations is also subject to the regular state inspection requirements set forth in Chapter 4 of this Rules and Regulations Manual.


Sounds like its only for commercial vehicles at this time I couldn't find anything else on TXDoT's website.
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:30 PM   #3
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http://www.ehow.com/list_6081429_dot...gulations.html

the first paragraph reads.
The national Vehicle Size and Weight Team of the United States Department of Transportation Federal Highway Administration is responsible for setting up the weight regulations of commercial vehicles on the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System as well as other specifically named roads throughout the United States and Puerto Rico. If you drive a VEHICLES that crosses state lines and weighs over 10,001 lbs., you are subject to commercial motor vehicle regulations and DOT truck weight

this is what i found the new law is not state its Federal either way I was told about it so i passed on what i heard, anybody can make the choice them selfs weather to take it or leave it i don't haul out of state very ofter so it really don't effect me personally would just hate to see somebody from out of state get a big fine trying to come here to play.
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:33 PM   #4
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I wanted to stay out of this thread but the misinformation is far to strong in here to not bring it back down to the facts and keep it on the level.

First off look up the definition of “commercial”. Basically in the states eye it means hauling cargo for profit. Be it people or actual freight.

Now with that said even though each state lays out it’s own regulations due to licensing the federal laws are just a bottom baseline for the interstates as far as a state wishes to recognize them. Some states are more lax than others, but if you meet the regulations in the state you are registered in then you are legal in other states that you pass thru.

To keep it simple…..

Even though Texas requires a person to hold a CDL drivers license to drive or tow a vehicle with a GCWR of over 26,000 lbs (farm tags excluded because they are limited to a 150 mile radius) you are not subject to commercial regulations unless you are hauling cargo for profit.

If it is your own personal rig and you are not hauling for profit (I.e. commercial) then the commercial laws do not apply to you except for having to have the state mandated CDL license to legally transport (AKA tow or haul) that amount of weight.

So to simplify it even more. In the state of Texas as long as the GVWR of your tow rig plus the GVWR of your trailer added together do not exceed 26,100lbs you are good to go. Unless you are hauling cargo for profit. If they do exceed that then you need a CDL even if you are only hauling your own personal property. (farm tags excluded)

Bottom line……..

If you are hauling your own personal property commercial laws do not apply to you. In state out of state makes no difference. As long as you are licensed properly in the state that you reside in the popo can’t say **** about your load as long as your licensed for the weight your towing or driving..

As far as inspection stickers for personal trailers like those issued to commercial trailers I highly doubt it will fly. The state knows better than to pull a fast one like that for non commercial interests . If they did they would have thousands of trailer owners pissed off and on their doorstep.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:10 AM   #5
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you are completely right on the commercial lic. thing. And as i said before im passing on what i was told due to a Inspectors certification class, i dont see where they would prepare a inspector for a change, that might not happen
i've been a tech in the commercial industry for 12 almost 13 years out of that i have been a Federal inspector for 10yr i have never had them tell us in our training anything more than what we will have and do have to look out for
i think that the Texas state law, and Federal law thing is getting confused here
Federal only has to give notice within 90 days of the affect date where state gives more time and as i said in another thread the date of affect isn't until sept 2011 by my calculations thats 10 months away, this was never suppose to be a topic for controversy just a friendly word to try and keep people aware,
and in my last post i gave a link that the first paragraph clearly stated If you drive a VEHICLE that crosses state lines and weighs over 10,001 lbs., you are subject to commercial motor vehicle regulations and DOT truck weight.

and the entire thread is about a Federal DoT inspection for the trailer, (and truck only out side of Texas)

now once again everyone can take this for what they want, I'm not a DoT officer so from here its up to you,

who knows i could have been in a class with a instructor that didnt know his head from a hole in the ground at least i pass the test and still able to do my job,
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:59 PM   #6
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Even if they make us get stickers, so what. Your trailer lights need to work anyways and it's always a good idea to have you brakes working. Easy to get a sticker. Only people sweating this is the ones who's trailer won't pass or not designed to be hauling a rig on it.
I agree with Snick. It's only for commercial use, but on the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if TxDOT did this for more money.
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Any trailer over 4,500 lbs has been required to have an inspection for a while now.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/interne...rms/VI-87C.pdf

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/insp...classsubmit=Go

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What's Inspected by Vehicle Type

Items of Inspection

05.06 Inspect All Trailers, Semitrailers, Pole Trailers, or Mobile Homes Exceeding 4,500 Pounds Actual Gross Weight or Registered Weight For: (Listed in suggested order of inspection) Refer to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations, if required.

* Check for evidence of Financial Responsibility on towing vehicle

1. Brakes (system) (If gross weight exceeds 4,500 pounds)
2. Tires
3. Wheel Assembly
4. Safety Guards or Flaps (if four tires or more on rearmost axle) Pole trailers exempt.
5. Tail Lamps (2)
6. Stop Lamps (2)
7. License Plate Lamp (1)
8. Rear Red Reflectors (2)
9. Turn Signal Lamps
10. Clearance Lamps
11. Side Marker Lamps
12. Side Reflectors
13. Side Marker Lamps and Reflectors (30 feet or more in overall length)
(Refer to Reference Section as per lighting diagrams and as applicable to the particular trailer being inspected.)
14. Serial or Vehicle Identification Number
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I got a ticket for no trailer inspection last January hauling my yota to Gilmer. Had no idea about the law until this incident.
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I have got a warning before for no trailer inspection. I know a handful of others that have gotten a ticket for it.
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