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Old 07-04-2012, 09:40 AM   #26
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Now you are on the right track, show some proof of what was broke, and go from there. Appears to me Bigevil made you a pretty fair deal in the above post, looks like the ball is in your court now..


I will say this, I do know BigEvil very well, and I do not know you jkwebb02, however this is an unbiased statement I am about to make.. I was 2' from the axle when it broke at Katemcy, I know exactly how it broke as I witnessed every second of the situation. I also know that the say before the birfield on the driverside broke as well and we changed everything out at camp and wheeled the following day again. The driverside came apart without issue, and went back together without issue and from my eyes there was nothing wrong on that side. As for the passenger side, it broke and we all assumed it was the birfield again based on how it acted after breaking (same issues as the previous day), the rig was driven back to camp on its own power, loaded up and brought home. Nothing was torn into once it got home and he posted axles for sale with what IMO was a pretty accurate description.. NOW from personal experience and shaft/birfield/u joint or anything along those lines breaking CAN lead to other part failures as I just address this on my personal axle. Without tearing into it though noone knows for sure what the issue was. It could have been as small as spitting the birfield clip off, or could have been a blown out birfield, coule be broken inner shaft, it could be lots of things.. Point being, when you buy something that you are fully aware has something broken, you run the risk of finding multiple issues.
i 100% agree to this but what he told me in person and i was at his house for id say about an hr, doesnt even come close to what you just said...if that was mentioned id probably of passed on these...the proof is in the trash...the driver side was okay except when putting the new axle in the cup where the birf goes into was bent, the whole pass side had to be replaced...
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schwing. i wouldnt refund you anything. you knowingly purchased this.
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I wasn't there when anything was said, so I can't say anything about that. All I know is what I saw in person, and what was in his ad. As far as verbal conversations/pm's/email's, that was between you 2.
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So, you had a chance to look at the axles before you bought them... so, right off the bat, if it had 2 different calipers, you should have noticed it. Did you spin the pinions to make sure everything moved smoothly and sounded good? If you did, you would have known about a seized bearing. It takes less than 20 minutes to pull a front axle apart. You could have easily pulled apart the front axle and checked out exactly what was broken. You bought used parts from a rig that was getting wheeled. If you don't take the time to thoroughly look over the parts to make sure they are all good, that is on you, no matter how it is advertised. You had the opportunity to walk away if you didn't like the deal.

Do go slinging your **** in every thread on the forum. You say you can go to whatever thread you want for this crap, but truth be told, you can't. The bad sellers section is what this kind of stuff is for, and if you can't accept that and follow the rules, you'll probably be joining the band. Just giving you a heads up on it.

And as far as that goes, I don't believe I have personally bought anything from bigevil, but I have been around this forum long enough to be able to tell what type of man he is, and I would gladly purchase from him anytime.
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everyone can say whatever they want but when your in person talking to the guy and different things are said its one thing...i didnt notice the calipers until i did the vented rotor v6 caliper swap, when you turn the rear axle you wouldnt think its a bearing bc it turns...its when you take out the rear axle and the drum doesnt spin...theres more too it and he i only know what said when in person

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so if theyre stock pullouts from a wheelin rig, how would he have known to tell you the bearings were bad?
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i 100% agree to this but what he told me in person and i was at his house for id say about an hr, doesnt even come close to what you just said...if that was mentioned id probably of passed on these...the proof is in the trash...the driver side was okay except when putting the new axle in the cup where the birf goes into was bent, the whole pass side had to be replaced...
i didnt say anything about the bearings cause i didnt have a clue they wher bad and i still think your making this **** up . you knew the pass birf was bad . i didnt tear into the axles . sold as is where is . i wasnt going to waist my time tearing into the axles i just wheeled on .

if you can proove i screwed you , i will give you the money and you can keep the axles . hell i will pay for all the upgrades you did to them aswell .
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i didnt say anything about the bearings cause i didnt have a clue they wher bad and i still think your making this **** up . you knew the pass birf was bad . i didnt tear into the axles . sold as is where is . i wasnt going to waist my time tearing into the axles i just wheeled on .

if you can proove i screwed you , i will give you the money and you can keep the axles . hell i will pay for all the upgrades you did to them aswell .
you think im making this up, you said it yourself you had no clue...if you didnt tear into the axles...you told me you werent sure what it was but heres an extra...
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Keep the discussion over y'alls issue in this thread. I've cleaned up the other threads.

Got folks texting me about drama lama.. and I'm trying to wrench on my CJ..

Thanks for the call yesterday, Robert.. I appreciate the heads up.
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im trying to weld up the powersteering . on my setup too . i dont have time for this **** . this guy is acting like a child .

i gave you the axle cause i wanted all the toyota stuff out of here . they break to easy . i beleave i said that a time or 2 while you was here . you said you was going cromos .

i didnt have a clue . hell it could have been anything but i know what a birf sounds like and thats what i heard . there was about 5 ppl around when the birf popped . theres even a video of me snapping the drivers side birf . witch was fixed .
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good bc i dont either...so this is done!
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good bc i dont either...so this is done!
no this isnt done . you called me out and now your running away . this isnt going to stop till you or i accept guilt . im giving you the chance to proove i lied and you can walk away with a free built set of axles .
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I'm not taking sides but this is what I get out of it after reading the intire post.

No way anyone could of known what was wrong inside without a tare down.
So what's the big argument about you bought something that was broken and you knew it.
He gave you all the spar stuff he had.
You agreed to the price.

I bought a truck at an auction that they said didn't run. It doesn't run the engine is locked up. I'm not bitching about it.

Why dose JK have 3 red squares?
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He has four now. Probably people giving him bad rep for the recent events. I know prior to these events he had 2 red squares because he came on here trying to sell a product when it was obvious he needed a vendor star...when he got called on it, he responded with the same attitude he is presenting on these threads. Hope this helps clear that up
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no this isnt done . you called me out and now your running away . this isnt going to stop till you or i accept guilt . im giving you the chance to proove i lied and you can walk away with a free built set of axles .
actually im not running from it...im not guilty of anything...i dont know how else you want me to prove it...im the one who tore the axles down and repaired the bad ****...you just didnt know the condition of your parts except for something was wrong with the pass front!
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Bigevil has a good reputation from many people, I wont let one guys bad dealing keep me from ever buying from him!
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actually im not running from it...im not guilty of anything...i dont know how else you want me to prove it...im the one who tore the axles down and repaired the bad ****...you just didnt know the condition of your parts except for something was wrong with the pass front!
holy **** . your fcking right . i didnt know the condition of the parts . that was said in pm #1 that i sent back to you . you are guilty of running your mouth . you made false accusations against me , dude you have problems . you really need to sit and think b4 you talk **** . this will bite you on the *** . i hope everyone on here learns a lession with this pos . dont deal with him . google his name if you want to find out more about him .

kenny plz dont deleat this tread . i would like it to stay up for ppl to see . i know theres ppl out there that only get on the form every now and then .
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i didnt make false accusations...that was my opinion of dealing with you...like i said i only dealt with you once...maybe things would have been different if i had bought something prior to this deal...this isnt going to bite me in the *** bc i dont buy sh*t off here anymore...i learned my lesson on that one...i have a right to post my opinion if you dont like then, i dont know what to tell you...id like it to stay up too...
"holy crap . how bad was it . it broke while in reverse and it didnt sound to bad . did you find those birfs on pirate ?" thats what you said
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For future reference Bigevil, here is how you should post your for sale ads :

For sale:
-1 "used front axle" ( keep in mind this is a Fourwheeler drive axle. It had oversized tires) this axle has been used beyond factory specifications and may not adhere to the chitons manual spec. --You are welcome to remove the diff cover" approx time 5 minutes"
- You can ask any questions relating to the condition use and maintenance
- some nuts or bolts may not be factory due to being lost or broken over the life of this unit. They might have been replaced by tractor supply hardware.
- the axle doesn't turn extremely freely but this is common and most likely due to (dry wheel bearings from water crossings)(bent tube). This is common but your welcome to check for yourself.
- keep in mind that when you show up you do not have to purchase anything. You have the right to choose..

Jeez, had you said that... You wouldn't be in this situation ! *** hole!


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For sale:
-1 "used front axle" ( keep in mind this is a Fourwheeler drive axle. It had oversized tires) this axle has been used beyond factory specifications and may not adhere to the chitons manual spec. --You are welcome to remove the diff cover" approx time 5 minutes"
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- some nuts or bolts may not be factory due to being lost or broken over the life of this unit. They might have been replaced by tractor supply hardware.
- the axle doesn't turn extremely freely but this is common and most likely due to (dry wheel bearings from water crossings)(bent tube). This is common but your welcome to check for yourself.
- keep in mind that when you show up you do not have to purchase anything. You have the right to choose..

Jeez, had you said that... You wouldn't be in this situation ! *** hole!


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