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Old 03-12-2013, 09:27 AM   #1
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The dodge needs a trans...

Well the trans is going on the dodge, no big surprise. I am gonna use this opportunity to put a built trans in it. I was thinking of doing a Suncoast trans with their converter. I will obviously be doing the bigger pan too. Suncoast's warranty isnt quite as good as ATS, but people seem to like Suncoast more. What suggestions do yall have?

I will be out of town for work for a while for work, so I have time to figure it out. Dont need to use the truck for a while.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:50 AM   #3
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You still can't put too much power to stock ally. Would go suncoast if it were me
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Just curious on how many miles you have on your stock tranny.
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Lol.....you mean Allison > built 48re
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Just curious on how many miles you have on your stock tranny.
150k, i bought the truck with a gooseneck hitch and trailer controller already in it, so i know its been towing
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Lol.....you mean Allison > built 48re
dont know what you are g! but i want some!
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A few years ago I would've said to buy the biggest baddest trans you could, but my thoughts have changed. I'm sure I'll get called out for this, but oh well. If your stock tranny lasted 150k miles of heavy towing, then why not rebuild it and go another 150k miles? My 06 has almost 140k and I've been running the smarty on it for awhile. No issues yet. I'm a cheap skate though.
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A few years ago I would've said to buy the biggest baddest trans you could, but my thoughts have changed. I'm sure I'll get called out for this, but oh well. If your stock tranny lasted 150k miles of heavy towing, then why not rebuild it and go another 150k miles? My 06 has almost 140k and I've been running the smarty on it for awhile. No issues yet. I'm a cheap skate though.
The drive-ability and shifts with a built trans is 10x better than stock. Same truck with the same tuning will feel like a different animal altogether. Being able to drive it hard and not worry is priceless.

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The guy in the shop next to ours does nothing but towing and got 400 k on 3 trucks with autos. In 2 he did put an ATS converter. Otherwise stock. Sun coast would be sweet but not 6k sweet IMO
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6k? I think thats a little high i was thinking around 5
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Not positive on price but I know they are up there. I couldn't justify buying one personally
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Not positive on price but I know they are up there. I couldn't justify buying one personally
I could see it if the truck were an older model, payed down/payed off. Or if you were a baller and could do it to a new truck. But for somethin that will last you the life of the truck without worrying about it, then yes, I would totally do it. Plan to once my payment gets a little lower. Till then my trans go jr in my ally does just fine!
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Standard swap. Costs less.
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6k? I think thats a little high i was thinking around 5
Serious? You are willing to spend 5k on a 48re build but wouldnt research an Allison swap with a stand alone controller?

I want what you're . Lol
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I would beef the stocker and buy a good converter from goerand. A good shop can beef up the stock setup, do a shift kit. I had one done this way for $2200 with a upgraded torque converter, but nothing like a goerand. You can get out for just over 3k this route.

As stated the truck will be a different animal with a decent tranny.
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There Relentless Deisel in Willis tx, Hour north of Houston. You would have trailer it there. He's known for his dodge and d-max auto's.
He use to do engineering work for ATS or DTT one of them, before he open his own shop.

I just had mine rebuilt by him heavy duty rebuild with one of his custon build valve bodys. Man its a hole new truck now.
I had 230,000 on my stock auto.
He uses mostly Suncoast parts.
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Well the trans is going on the dodge, no big surprise. I am gonna use this opportunity to put a built trans in it. I was thinking of doing a Suncoast trans with their converter. I will obviously be doing the bigger pan too. Suncoast's warranty isnt quite as good as ATS, but people seem to like Suncoast more. What suggestions do yall have?

I will be out of town for work for a while for work, so I have time to figure it out. Dont need to use the truck for a while.

Whatever you do, do not buy an ATS trans.... long story short, they are junk.

I am going to recommend Georand Transmissions. Scott at Performax Transmission here in SA is a recommended installer by Georand, and can get you squared away. Scott seems like a good guy, and actually knows HP diesel transmissions which is a rare quality.

As far as what to get, that all depends on your power level and how you plan on driving it. Most likely I would just get a triple disk converter and valve body with rebuild. The Georand valve body is where all the difference is made compared to any of the others.
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There Relentless Deisel in Willis tx, Hour north of Houston. You would have trailer it there. He's known for his dodge and d-max auto's.
He use to do engineering work for ATS or DTT one of them, before he open his own shop.

I just had mine rebuilt by him heavy duty rebuild with one of his custon build valve bodys. Man its a hole new truck now.
I had 230,000 on my stock auto.
He uses mostly Suncoast parts.
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Lol.....you mean Allison > built 48re
The Allison is a good stock transmission, but not the best modified. The 48RE is a beast when its built... It is actually an upgrade over the Allison in drag racing. Quite a few Duramax/48RE setups out there.

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Whoa whoa, there was no talk here of a 1k HP 1/4 mile monster!

I was just suggesting a $3500 Allison swap that can be driven and forgotten about under load daily rather than 5k plus 48re that gets quirky as hell for daily driving.

I fully understand what a 48re is capable of as well as what a pile of garbage they are in stock form for towing whereas an Allison will operate overloaded by 15k lbs for 100k without a fluid change. They are such a large trans. with a giant converter and crazy rotational mass, I do understand why they don't work at high HP applications. But Art ain't gonna be runnin twin turbos on propane and methanol. Lol

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Im definitely not looking for a quirky daily driver, my old green jeep that i sold was way to quirky lol. Bodie does your dodge have a built trans? Mind giving me a test ride so i can feel what its like.
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