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Old 06-11-2012, 09:10 PM   #1
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Lift pumps

Wanting to get a lift pump for my 06 gmc lbz. Plenty of power but run out of fuel, bogs down, then will go again. Lookin at the air dog system as it has the best filtration. Has anyone done one of these or something similar? I have turbo back, PPE level 3. Air box mod, trans go jr shift kit. Egr block and PVC reroute. I just wanna save my injectors/pump from starving it of fuel. Seein if any of y'all have any input.

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Old 06-11-2012, 09:13 PM   #2
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:16 PM   #3
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Meanin tune? I have PPE programmer on level 3. Level 2 is supposed to be better for towin, but I never change it as it keeps my egt's down due to higher boost levels. I'm only talkin about boggin when I'm gettin into it and the fuel rail pressure drops cuz it ain't gettin enough
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Really? When I'd run mine on level 3 it ran pretty damn good. I'm considering running an AD II soon mainly for filtration purposes and hope to do a bigger turbo next year. DAG456 (screenname might be a little different) is the biggest Duramax guru I know and he swears by the AD. I was considering a Raptor for less money but I could use the extra filtration of the AD.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:32 PM   #5
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It runs good, but I'm noticing around 50-55 it'll choke till it gets more fuel comin in. Plus I always run on level 3
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:46 PM   #6
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Do the AD II, that's what I'll be running as soon as funds allow. Read over on Dieselplace and duramax forum as well if you haven't already.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:32 PM   #7
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Good list of mods on your truck.

Airdog gets my vote, just make sure you register the warranty card. If I had money to blow I'd get the Kennedy kit but not for $800.00.

I have installed 10+ AD pumps and had zero issues. When the one on my truck died they overnight ed me a motor and after 30 min I was back in business. Its a flow through pump so the truck still ran.

For what its worth I have the lubrication specialist fuel filter bleeder valve on my truck and I plumbed it with some hose and a valve instead of the tube it came with. I have the lift pump set up to turn on with the key but also have a bypass switch in the cab. I use it to get some fuel to start a campfire or in a pinch to fill up a 5 gallon jug for the tractor. Its basically a cool little transfer pump.

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Old 06-12-2012, 03:16 PM   #8
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good list of mods on your truck.

Airdog gets my vote, just make sure you register the warranty card. If i had money to blow i'd get the kennedy kit but not for $800.00.

I have installed 10+ ad pumps and had zero issues. When the one on my truck died they overnight ed me a motor and after 30 min i was back in business. Its a flow through pump so the truck still ran.

For what its worth i have the lubrication specialist fuel filter bleeder valve on my truck and i plumbed it with some hose and a valve instead of the tube it came with. I have the lift pump set up to turn on with the key but also have a bypass switch in the cab. I use it to get some fuel to start a campfire or in a pinch to fill up a 5 gallon jug for the tractor. Its basically a cool little transfer pump.

http://www.lubricationspecialist.com...der-valve-kit/
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:29 PM   #9
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I have a raptor 150 on my truck and no complaints and plenty of fuel for my +120rwhp tune on my dsp5 switch. Its supposedly the same pump as the airdog but without the filtration. Its a bit noisy, but once the engine is on you can't hear it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:51 AM   #10
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well I bit the bullet and ordered the FASS platinum lift pump yesterday. I have been reading good things about the setup and can't wait to install it and feel my tunes!
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:12 AM   #11
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I've had my FASS 150 for three years now with no issues. I have multiple friends running AD products they work just as well. Seems to just be a matter of preference. Not to hijack but it would be good info for this thread, those that are running FASS or AD how often are y'all changing filters? I figured I would wait till I seen a couple psi drop on my FP gauge or a drop under heavy throttle then I would change my filters. Three years later I've never seen any dip in my FP also never had any water drain from the separator.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:59 AM   #12
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interesting. did you plumb a pressure gauge on the stock fuel filter housing or inline with the fass? I'm wanting to do something like this but want to see/hear ideas. also did you keep your stock filter or delete it?
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:19 AM   #13
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Not to hijack, but any experience with the ad 2 on a 6.0 powerstroke? Just curious of reliability.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:30 AM   #14
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high jack away. that's what this thread is for, learning of the pumps. idk on the 6.0, the Dmax only has a cp3 to pull all the way from the tank to the motor, no low pressure pump. I'm sure it would benefit on all diesels with or without a tune
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:49 AM   #15
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My main concern is reliability seeing that the dmax and cummins are at 15 psi or so but the 6.0 is at 60 psi. I have the ad 2 already, sitting in the package in the garage, just not dead set on running it yet.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:23 PM   #16
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reliability on what mark? you're not necessarily gonna get more or less pressure than u already have, it's just to keep that pressure on the fuel rail at all
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:04 PM   #17
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I understand that, the ad 2 for a powerstroke is putting out upwards of 55 psi. The dmax and cummins ones are significantly lower.. I have heard of a higher failure rate on the powerstrokes due to them not being designed for the higher psi that is required.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:28 PM   #18
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give em a call. I talked with a guy at FASS and he was very helpful with my questions
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:47 PM   #19
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Also not sure on the dmax and cummins versions but the powerstroke version does have an adjustable regulator.
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I doubt calling would answer my question lol, you think they would say their product is unreliable?? Lol
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:07 PM   #21
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don't know man. why did you buy it then? lol only way to know for sure is see how much adjustability it can give you as far as psi goes. pressure gauge and what not.
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I have a raptor on the fj80 and I like it. A little loud but as said once it starts you never hear it. I want to get an ad2 for my new truck since it has better filtration but man they are not giving them away.
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I don't think you are understanding my question. I was asking about the reliability of the pump, not the pressure. Since buying the pump I have read some reviews of failures related to the fords, and people blame it on the fact that the ad2 is not adequately designed for the higher pressure. I know I will put out the pressure I need, I was asking if anyone had first hand experience in the reliability of them in my application.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:37 PM   #24
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u can also use the raptor and run a cat filter inline. I have heard good things on that setup too. just dont have the time to fab it up

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then the cat filter, some fittings and hoses and brackets.

my bad. was gettin ur question mixed up. if u already have the high pressure I personally wouldn't see a need for
one then. but then again I don't know about them fords

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Lol it's all good! The ad 2 replaces the stock lift pump on a ford. The killer with the stickers is some move enough fuel some dont, when I am on the throttle hard, I will see a drop to 40 or below which is a nono for my injectors! I bought the ad 2 then heard mixed reviews, I think I am gonna end up using it, but purchasing a spare motor for it just in case!
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