Power Steering Fluid milkshake - Texas 4x4 Forum

Go Back   Texas 4x4 Forum > Technical > Gas\Diesel Engine & Transmission

Photo Gallery Places to Wheel Gallery III Home Forum Tech Section IRCChat FlashChat

Gas\Diesel Engine & Transmission Engine, Transmission, Transfer case

Texas4x4.org is the premier All All Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.

Gas\Diesel Engine & Transmission:

Power Steering Fluid milkshake



Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-13-2009, 11:29 AM   #1
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blue Texas
Posts: 1,140
mudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spotter
Power Steering Fluid milkshake

To start off my 76cj7 is running pwr steering pump, gearbox, and hydroboost all from a 96 1 ton chevy truck.

So after driving my heep for a while I checked the pwr steering fluid and it seemed kinda milky- so I drained it and refilled it with new fluid.(actual power steering fluid, not atf)

Well I took it muddin and checked the fluid during this and saw it was puking out the cap cause it was hot. It was milky again already and kind of frothy from being a little low.

I drained the pump res again and added an inline cooler, filled it up again.

It runs cooler but it turns milky again within 10 min of refilling it.

I don't know if it is from air or water getting in there or if it was just because it sat for so long while I was building the jeep and the steering box/HBoost has water in it or what?

Should I completely flush the steering box and hydroboost? If so whats the best way, I don't want to use an air compressor to blow out the fluid and have a bunch of air in there either.

What do ya think?
__________________
Wanted : D60 spring plates, hydro assist ram, dodge road armor rear bumper... Or a money tree
mudskipper4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 05-13-2009, 12:26 PM   #2
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Panhandle
Posts: 1,285
Jeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud ofJeromy has much to be proud of
thats what mine looked like at first, It should just be air in the system. Try jacking up the front end and cut the wheels lock to lock. It may take serveral times to get all the air out of the system, but it does come out.
__________________
http://www.texas4x4.org/image.php?ty...ine=1241449003
Quote:
Or....he's hangin with the WRONG CROWD, somking crack, doing heroine and wheelin with J**PERS!
82 toyota single cab short bed. The Cockroach.
72 K5... soon to have 427, th350,205.
83 K30 454, TH400, 205.
04 GMC 2500, 2wd but hey its a Duramax.
96 Impala SS, just like a Corvette but with a backseat
1950 Chevy 6400 X2
Jeromy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 01:12 PM   #3
Wheels 4 Food
 
Mitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Azle
Posts: 11,141
Mitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with Anubis
I converted my steering fluid to hydraulic jack oil because I needed some and that was the only hydraulic oil at autozone that wasn't a 5 gallon bucket. No foaming and it's cheap. No issues to speak of. I stopped using powersteering fluid when I went to hydro assist, then went to full hydro and haven't looked back.
__________________
Thanks, Smokey!

1. 84 Yota - one ton swap - in progress
2. 65 V-dub Class 5 Unlimited #524 Baaad Sheep Racing


Jeeps are for girls
And guys that wish they were girls.....

Automatic transmissions are gay.

Flipped up tow mirrors are the sagging pants of the truck world.
Mitch is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 05-13-2009, 01:23 PM   #4
Wheels 4 Food
 
mnmstoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SATX
Posts: 6,720
mnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubismnmstoy Surfs Venus with Anubis
all is valid.
Not sure how water mixed in would look like. But mudding (water) maybe your cap isn't sealed good and letting water in mixing it all up.
Just a thought.
Mike

I use ATF on my Toyota...hydro assist.
__________________
Mike
________________________________
1980 Toyota 4.3/465/300 on Propane.
60/14 welded front, detroit rear 5.13 gears.
39.5 IROC on H1's
mnmstoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 01:34 PM   #5
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blue Texas
Posts: 1,140
mudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spotter
Well I've driven it about 100 miles since the last refill so I figured all of the air would be out by now.

Ill look into the hydraulic jack oil, sounds good to me. I bet the boiling point is higher also.

As far as mudding and water getting in like that, it's possible but highly unlikely as I didn't drive through any water high enough to get in. I also don't plow into the water at 50mph and have it splash all over the engine etc.

Next time I drain it I'll take a picture and show you what it looks like but it pretty much looks like a thin lightly colored chocolate milkshake.

I just didn't want it to mess up the pump, hydra boost, or gear box.
__________________
Wanted : D60 spring plates, hydro assist ram, dodge road armor rear bumper... Or a money tree

Last edited by mudskipper4x4; 05-13-2009 at 01:40 PM..
mudskipper4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 01:40 PM   #6
Wheels 4 Food
 
Mitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Azle
Posts: 11,141
Mitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with AnubisMitch Surfs Venus with Anubis
I'm not saying to use it, that's just what I use because I'm a cheapass and I can get it at any Vatozone.
__________________
Thanks, Smokey!

1. 84 Yota - one ton swap - in progress
2. 65 V-dub Class 5 Unlimited #524 Baaad Sheep Racing


Jeeps are for girls
And guys that wish they were girls.....

Automatic transmissions are gay.

Flipped up tow mirrors are the sagging pants of the truck world.
Mitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 01:44 PM   #7
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blue Texas
Posts: 1,140
mudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spotter
That's fine I'll eventually go to hydro assist when I get some bigger tires and swap in the d60. Maybe then I'll just buy the hydraulic oil by the 5 gal bucket and use it...?
__________________
Wanted : D60 spring plates, hydro assist ram, dodge road armor rear bumper... Or a money tree
mudskipper4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 01:48 PM   #8
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sour Lake, Tx
Posts: 1,108
Stouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happy
Where is your Reservior? Is it Higher than your Pump and rest of the system? it should be highest. Also, The milky color is most likely Air. If it is in the system it may take a bit to get it out, if your reservior is cavatating than you could be getting it from there. If your Res. is too low it will burp out fluid, it will also cavatate. Ditch the ATF, ditch the Powersteering fluid and run Kubota Super UTF. I have been running it and others have. It does not foam as bad and stays cooler. Some pics of your system will help.
Stouttrout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 01:51 PM   #9
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sour Lake, Tx
Posts: 1,108
Stouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happy
Also, it only takes one tiny air buble to bust and through it into a million tinier bubbles.
Stouttrout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 01:57 PM   #10
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blue Texas
Posts: 1,140
mudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spotter
Here's a pic. Its in the typical chevy location. Higher than the steering box and lower than the hydro-boost. Im only using the stock pump resivoir right now.


__________________
Wanted : D60 spring plates, hydro assist ram, dodge road armor rear bumper... Or a money tree
mudskipper4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 02:06 PM   #11
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sour Lake, Tx
Posts: 1,108
Stouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happy
Is that the Stock Reservior for that system? You may want to get more fluid. You can do that by extending the neck. Cut the top off an old Reservior can and patch the two together using tubing.

http://www.coloradok5.com/westtexas/...sinstalled.jpg

You can also do an upgrade tot he pump to bring the pressure up on it:

http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.co...rsteering.html


I would be you just have air in it. The Super UTD hydraulic fluid from Kubota has an anti foam and carry some good heat level well. It a while for my air to bleed out. I would start it run it for a little while and then park it over night. However, if your pump is cavatating in anyway it will be hard to ever get the air out.
Stouttrout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 02:32 PM   #12
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blue Texas
Posts: 1,140
mudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spotter
Yep that is the stock system all from a 96 chevy one ton.

What causes the pump to cavatate anyways?

I don't think it needs more pressure yet, at least until I get bigger tires.
__________________
Wanted : D60 spring plates, hydro assist ram, dodge road armor rear bumper... Or a money tree
mudskipper4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 07:40 PM   #13
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: austintexas
Posts: 242
zukidave will become famous soon enough
I'd say you got a bad pump.
The only way air can get into the system is
low fluid level.
The pump pickup is at the bottom of the res.
All hose's are under pressure when it's running
including the return hose's so
if something's leaking it's leaking out not in.
__________________
87 sammi waggy dana44,s 538,s locked f/r 5.1t.case 36 ,full cage not much sheet metal left
getting parted out now.
87 sami buggy build (see above)
90 sami 1.3L. efi, spoa, 5to1 t-case, locked rear,
rollin 31" ltb's with the tune's going chillin in the AC
zukidave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 08:17 PM   #14
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sour Lake, Tx
Posts: 1,108
Stouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happyStouttrout is just really happy
Quote:
Originally Posted by mudskipper4x4 View Post
Yep that is the stock system all from a 96 chevy one ton.

What causes the pump to cavatate anyways?

I don't think it needs more pressure yet, at least until I get bigger tires.
To cavatate it would need to be loosing fluid and as stated it is unlikely with that can on it.
Stouttrout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 08:34 PM   #15
Flex Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blue Texas
Posts: 1,140
mudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spottermudskipper4x4 Spotter
Quote:
Originally Posted by zukidave View Post
I'd say you got a bad pump.
The only way air can get into the system is
low fluid level.
The pump pickup is at the bottom of the res.
All hose's are under pressure when it's running
including the return hose's so
if something's leaking it's leaking out not in.
The only time it leaks is when it gets too hot and comes back out of the cap. After the cooler went on it doesn't do that. The pump works fine. I can turn the tires with two fingers in the steering wheel at idle.
__________________
Wanted : D60 spring plates, hydro assist ram, dodge road armor rear bumper... Or a money tree
mudskipper4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 12:10 AM   #16
camel humper
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Rosebud, Tx. / Baghdad, Iraq
Posts: 1,920
dragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubisdragoonranch Surfs Venus with Anubis
I run Amsoils hyd. fluid myself and so do a few others here. I highly recommend it (and yes, I do sell it also)

When I switched to hydro-assist, and then again to full hydro, it took no time at all to get the system bled. I would like to think the oil contributed to that, as I have heard the horror stories of folks trying to get PS fluid to clear up.


With the engine running, get the tires up and cylcle the steering a few times. Kill engine. Check fluid level and for air bubbles. Top off as necessary.

Wash, rinse, repeat...
__________________
Ed ( Sultan of Sand )
'78 Chevy Big-30

https://www.amsoil.com/dealer/websit.../atvbanner.gif

Click here to check out our online store.
AMSOIL Your last stop for all your Automotive Synthetic Lubricant needs.
Please PM me for quotes or questions.

Click here for places to wheel in Texas
dragoonranch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 06:21 PM   #17
Wheels 4 Food
 
S.A.K-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: china grove
Posts: 4,086
S.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant futureS.A.K-5 has a brilliant future
in my opinion it is because the reservoir does not have enough capacity. when turned all the way it can suck air into system.
S.A.K-5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 09:51 PM   #18
Gonzo Wheeler
 
BIGJIMMYSROCK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SAN ANTONIO TX
Posts: 2,797
BIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with AnubisBIGJIMMYSROCK Surfs Venus with Anubis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch View Post
I converted my steering fluid to hydraulic jack oil because I needed some and that was the only hydraulic oil at autozone that wasn't a 5 gallon bucket. No foaming and it's cheap. No issues to speak of. I stopped using powersteering fluid when I went to hydro assist, then went to full hydro and haven't looked back.
my truck didnt like jack oil so im using dex/merc. not just
__________________
MIDNIGHT FOUR WHEELERS!!!!
BIGJIMMYSROCK is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Full-Hydro on the road Nooner General chit chat for & about 4x4's. 53 05-18-2009 11:47 AM
full hydro steering? 51JeepWillys General chit chat for & about 4x4's. 33 12-15-2008 09:44 PM
New Power Steering Pump and lines installed - Part I MuddinManny Projects Forum 5 08-01-2007 09:05 PM
GM power steering pump, steering box #1 Z71 Wanted 4 10-09-2005 11:23 AM
Full hydro steering got a question about it Cody Axles, Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Tires & Wheels 24 03-13-2005 06:28 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:49 PM.


3.8.8 - Powered by vBulletin
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2002-2012 Texas4x4.org
 

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0