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Old 04-30-2011, 10:29 AM   #1
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Propane part #'s

I'm trying real hard to get a complete set of part numbers together in one place so that anyone who wants to run it won't have to look all over kingdom come for all the parts. Obviously if you have the cash and want a complete kit then I would make a call to gotpropane and be done. For those of us who can't take that kind of shock to our wallets then this will help you on piecing together a kit.

The parts I will list will be for a toyota 20/22r motor. If you have a 22re then you will need to acquire a carb intake, 22r coil and distributor.

There will be some things I'll miss or forget so bring it to my attention and I'll edit the post.

First is the carb. This is the one nearly all yota's are using.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/fb-200m-2.htm

This is the most widely used regulator.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/eb-2-imp.htm
Here is another option that I've been liking more than the model E. It has almost identical performance but seems to mount a little easier.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/lb-2-imp.htm

Electric lockoff.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/151.htm
Edit: This lockoff has a built in filter..
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/152.htm

Those are the three major components and most everything else will be fittings and hoses. I'll try and list as many as I can to save you 20 trips to the parts store.

Starting at the tank. This is the big quick connect fitting.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/7141f-am.htm

The quick connect is a 1/4" female pipe fitting so it will need a fitting to get it to -6 an. You will need 2 of these. One for the this and one for the lockoff.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/74408.htm

This is the field serviceable fitting that goes on the end of the preasure hose. You will need two of these also.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/74415.htm

So far you have everything you need to connect a tank to the lockoff. Next will be all the fittings needed for the model E regulator.

First one is where the lockoff screws on. I use a 90 here to allow the lockoff to come in from the bottom.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/74412.htm

Next the model E requires a water in and water out and those fittings are 3/8"x5/8". Due to the way the model E is made it seems that 90's are the easiest.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/74517.htm

The vapor outlet on the model E is 1" pipe. Now this is where it can get trick. I have no idea where your going to mount your model E and seeing as the vapor hose needs to be as short and straight as possible your going to have to get it mounted and see which fitting works best. They make 90's and straight fittings and I think they even make a 45*. Here is a page with some fittings on it. Remember when ordering that you need a 1" pipe by 1" hose.
http://www.helmarparts.com/Fittings_s/184.htm
http://www.pngtechnologies.com/Fittings.html

Here is a page that list the vapor hose to go between the regulator and carb. I don't know the length you will need so you will need to measure. Remember you need 1" id hose.
http://www.pngtechnologies.com/Hoses_Fittings.html

Here is where my memory sucks. I can't remember what size the fitting is in the back of the carb. I will get this info and edit it once I have it. Edit: the size fitting is the same as a model E so you will need a 1" thread x 1" hose.

The only other major hurdle is figuring out how to mount the carb. This is where buying the gotpropane kit pays off. I have made a few in the past and it's not as hard as you would think. There is actually two ways to do it(maybe more but this is all I know). First is to make a two plate adapter like I did in this thread.
http://www.texas4x4.org/showthread.php?t=25360

The other way is a little simpler. It uses an impco butterfly that bolts to the carb and has a two bolt mount on the bottom of it. All that is needed is to get a piece of flat steel or aluminum and drill 4 holes in it that correspond with the 4 holes in the stock intake manifold then drill a large hole and two smaller holes to correspond with the impco butterfly. Sounds complicated but is very easy. I'll get a pic up of this set-up shortly.

On a side note all the parts that are listed will work for a v8 if you change the carb from a ca-200 to a 425.
http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/ct425m-2.htm
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Here is how my friend Charley did his and it works great.


I "THINK" this is the adapter that is used. I know they make a 1 3/4" and a 2" bore because I have both on my shelf but this one doesn't list which one it is.

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Thanks guys. I get asked a lot about parts for propane set-ups so figured this might help everyone.
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Man this post even helped me even though my propane setup is done already! I have racked my brain looking everywhere for that vapor hose and finally decided to just run heater hose til I could find it somewhere. Guess I'll go ahead and spend some money and order some haha............
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Great write up...What about a dual fuel setup, That way I can run gas, til the propane is needed?..I think I ve seen one with the electric cutout that made it where gas and propane wouldnt be run at the same time...How much different would the dual fuel setup be compared to the one you have a write up for??
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I "THINK" this is the adapter that is used. I know they make a 1 3/4" and a 2" bore because I have both on my shelf but this one doesn't list which one it is.

http://www.helmarparts.com/product_p/at2-4-2.htm
I used the same set up. Works great!
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I used the same set up. Works great!
X2 and about to put one on my new 1st gen, great write up Harley!
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To add to harleys thread, I finally got mine going and got to wondering how the vaporizer and the mixer worked.
Trying to search for the info only landed me a little bit of info. Most of what I found was companies trying to sell there stuff.
the vaporizer is basically a non pressure boiler. propane boils at - 44*f. changing from a liquid to a gas. thats pretty much all the vaporizer does except most of the models we use are single regulators as well. keeping the pressure down.
the mixer is basically a vaccum operated diaphram. If you have adquate vaccum it'll open and let the pane flow according to the amount of vaccum. Not quite sure how it works at wide open throttle. Most engines have little to no vaccum at wot.
this site has some good info, http://www.algas-sdi.com/why-vaporizers.html
Anybody able to fill in the blanks?
Having the knowledge of how the system works will help with trouble shooting.

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Had the propane guru at the parts house tell me some good info. If you're running a 425 mixer and need to know lean or rich. He said to screw in the big screw all the way untill it stops then back it out 7 turns. This is factory stock setting. Run it in for lean and out for rich. The little screw on the side thats small flat head is the idle. I wasn't sure how it gave it idle when it still used a holly base plate to control air flow. What I did was have my wife get in and start it and put it in reverse(not drive! Don't be silly and run yourself over!) and hold the brake as hard as she could. Standing at the front of the rig I adjusted the small screw out and gave it gas until it didn't stumble or hesitate under load.

I've been having issues with off idle performance under load and I can say that isn't the case anymore. Hope this helps.
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Good info man. I'm not sure why my propane setup wasn't running properly because I burned through fuel too much. Possibly the change in elevation? But it ran fine at Consafo and Amarillo. It even ran fine loading it on the trailer before I left and unloading it off the trailer when I got back home. I did notice it idling really high at Trees. Guess something to look into.

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Your motor sounds great and seems to have good power. I did notice that your carb was oily looking. Propane will leave an oily residue so you may have a leak close to the carb. Spray it with some soapy water while running and see if anything happens.

Can't believe my junk has been running like crap for this long but glad it's fixed. Feels like I have twice the power.
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