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Old 05-22-2012, 09:37 AM   #1
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Wrangler won't start

What's happening: turn the key to start the motor, nothing happens but the relay clicks. Im positive its the relay clicking and not the starter. Does not turn over nothing. 4 banger. It's been running fine drove it to a friends and all round town one day, stayed the night went to start it the next day and nothing.

What I've done: battery is fully charged, took the starter off orielly says its good.. Changed the starter relay. Idk what else to do
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:45 AM   #2
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Sounds like the starter is bad or not receiving the juice...











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Check connections. might jump the starter with a screw driver. It has to be starter, relay or battery.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:48 AM   #4
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Ok yea I'm going to go over there and use a test light to see if the starter is getting juice
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:49 AM   #5
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Sometimes in the jeeps the ground the battery will work it's way lose. Check that also.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:02 AM   #6
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I kept blowin the fuel pump fuse under the hood, the big ones, gauges would come on but I would crank and nothin happens. look at the fuses in the fuse block for any burnt ones
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:17 PM   #7
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Ok update you guys: I talked the guys at oriellys into warrantying my starter. So put the new one in and started up. Then went fishing came back 3-4 hrs later and same thing. So it's not the starter.


My question could this be the ignition switch going bad? In the mean time I'm going to check the fuses and battery ground.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:30 PM   #8
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Ok update you guys: I talked the guys at oriellys into warrantying my starter. So put the new one in and started up. Then went fishing came back 3-4 hrs later and same thing. So it's not the starter.


My question could this be the ignition switch going bad? In the mean time I'm going to check the fuses and battery ground.
Usually if the ignition is bad then you have nothing. I would have to hear the clicking if makes to help you.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:21 PM   #9
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What changed in the time you were away fishing? Was the rig sitting or driven at all?

Did you charge the battery before attempting to start after the new starter install?

If the new starter was able to start the truck once, but not again - it would seem there is a short possibly frying the starter motor.

Does the engine even attempt to turn over with the old and newly non-working starter?

When you turn the key - does the relay only click once or many times on/off?





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Old 05-30-2012, 01:28 PM   #10
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Sorry took so long you guys, well it's off and on, go out there one day and it starts right up with the key, then go out there the next and just gauges come on does not make any noise.

What I've been doing so I'm not stranded is turning the key to on position and jumping the starter solenoid off and it starts up.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:41 PM   #11
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What I've been doing so I'm not stranded is turning the key to on position and jumping the starter solenoid off and it starts up.
Sounds like you just answered your own question...are you jumping from the battery to the hot side or starter side?






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Old 06-11-2012, 09:11 PM   #12
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Check ur fuses under the hood. I'm tellin u I had the same issue
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:47 PM   #13
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alright i havnt done much since the last post put ima just go ahead and put a new ignition switch "the electrical part" and see what happens. its only like 40 bucks. Ill let yall know what happens. Thanks for yalls help
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:30 PM   #14
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update:
replaced ignition switch, NOT THE PROBLEM lol, Must be a loose connection. Going to have a mech look at it.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:00 PM   #15
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check ur damn fuses under the hood. how many times do I gotta say it lol the big "bus" fuses I believe they are called
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:29 PM   #16
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Hey you guys I appreciate everybody's input on my situtation. It turns out that the ground wires to the relays were basically shot. The relays under the hood. The bad grounds to the relay were what caused the intermittent problem. Again thanks you guys
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:50 PM   #18
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haha yea it was a long process of elimination but got it. Just thought I would complete the tread with the final results!
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haha yea it was a long process of elimination but got it. Just thought I would complete the tread with the final results!
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crewcab88 I LOVE the way you think! haha Im running on a pretty low budget at least for the next year. I think Ill buy a new project to go big on. It would be considered if there wasnt alot of rust. Im prolly dumb for swapping the motor already! but by the time I get a new project it will prolly be torn apart anyways and Ill pull the motor! haha
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crewcab88 I LOVE the way you think! haha Im running on a pretty low budget at least for the next year. I think Ill buy a new project to go big on. It would be considered if there wasnt alot of rust. Im prolly dumb for swapping the motor already! but by the time I get a new project it will prolly be torn apart anyways and Ill pull the motor! haha
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No bullshit, my yota does this some times, would tap the starter with a wrench and keep tryin and it would eventually start up.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:27 PM   #24
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OK EVERYONE IVE GOT SOME MORE WRANGLER STARTING PROBLEMS....

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Here whats going on, driving down the road dies while pulled at a stop light. Has not started in months so today I tried to take on the challenge and dump some money into it.

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I checked the fuel line to see if fuel pump is pumping, (verified that the fuel relay and all fuses all good.) but no fuel so confirmed power going to the connector and pulled the unit and replaced the fuel pump. Now pump works fine and is pumping fuel. HOWEVER STILL NO START JUST CRANK AND CRANK but wont start. I don't need to bleed the injectors or fuel rail do I?

So I Moved on to electrical system. I Checked that the coil is sending spark and it was. So then checked distributer cap and rotor ehhh could be replaced but not horrible not enough to cause this I believe. Moved on to the classic that causes this problem a lot...The CRANK POSITION SENSOR, instead of just purchasing it I did the tests posted various places online and the tests showed it to be bad cleaned it up and still no start , so I said hell yea bought it installed it and guess what NO StART. So I was sure that was it so Im running out of options I believe,

I need all the help I can get cause its hard to trouble shoot sad excuse for a jeep lol.

I have checked all fuses and relays (ALL of them) checked grounds including to the fuse box its good. Has a relatively new ignition switch, the pice between the switch and the lock cylinder was broke that's new.

I am gonna make sure I have spark tomorrow to the spark plugs and will update. Any ideas would be appreciated. Guess maybe check to make sure the cps I bought is really good. Im worried about the computer a little bit

Also one thing its doing that Ive only noticed today, It does the usual flash all lights when like check engine airbags and stuff, then they disappear however long until I begin to crank it, then the check engine comes on while cranking stays about 2 seconds but this weird cause I don't remember it ever flashing while cranking. It flashes and it never goes to off position so straight from run to crank and comes on. everyonce in awhile it doesn't but no start then either
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:07 AM   #25
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No spark, did what is supposedly the correct test for sensor (the new one installed and shows bad) Could it be bought a bad sensor, I did get it from oriellys cause I wanted it same day on Saturday. There is spark coming from the coil. sooo between the spark plug wires to the coil between there is an issue, gonna check the distributer cap and rotor
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