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Buying a new Tow Rig..



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Old 04-16-2008, 11:28 PM   #1
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Buying a new Tow Rig..

So what would you get? I wasn't planning on doing this until this coming Sept., but my company just changed my mind for me. I know I'm getting a diesel this time, just know who is better right now. I know what Glen, Mark, and Eric think, but I would also like to know what you think.
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duramax all the way...good friend of mine just purchased a new crew cab 4x after driving a crew 06 power stroke.... and he likes it a lot and it has a little more pep than the ol' ford
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Cummins 1st choice
Ford close 2nd
Duramax distant 3rd

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New Towrig-Duramax by far. You will get a truck that doesn't have a/as cheap interior and an engine that has been proven and will run as good if not better than the other two.
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To me it boils down to if you are buying the engine or the truck.


Dodge has 'em all whipped with the engine.
But the duribility of the body,interior & tranny leave much to be desired.

Duramax is quiet & powerfull enough....unless you are used to a cummins.
Chevys,even 4WD ones set close to the ground.Nice for a daily driver,but not so nice for rutted muddy lease roads. But the interior & comfort level is way above a dodge.

Ford.....who wants to pull the cab off to work on the engine??? The new grills look like something off the jetsons. To fords credit,motor pulls hard...but i still think a cummins & duramax has it beat.
King Ranch interior.....need i say more? This snazzy leather package is twice as nice as anything offered by chevy or dodge from the factory.Sure cozy on those long road trips....
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New Towrig-Duramax by far. You will get a truck that doesn't have a/as cheap interior and an engine that has been proven and will run as good if not better than the other two.
Not quite sure what Duramax you are talking about. It has only been around for a few years, and has changed almost each and every year.

The Cummins is my choice. Not because I own one, but because they have been around for a long time. My friends uncle has a late 90's Cummins with over 600K on the ticker. Besides you gotta love the rattle of the old 12v's. I would get an early 2007 though, to avoid all the emissions.
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If you couldn't care less about creature comforts & looks and you just want engine reliability, hands down one of the last 5.9s.


Now, for an all around diesel with great comfort (ie leg room, comfy seats, ceilings that don't make you feel like a midget in a Miata, etc), awesome power stock with great aftermarket support, way better looks than Furd & Dooche, best auto currently available...I'd go with an 06-07 LBZ Classic with a 6 speed. My 06 4x4 doesn't look too lowrider...

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george,
i don't have any first hand info, just second hand.
my brother worked for a tire company for 15 years and he had a route and pulled a gooseneck delivering tires to farmers all over the panhandle of texas. he had the fords, dodges and chevys. once he got the duramax, that is all he bought from then on, about every 2 years. he said they got better mileage and was more comfortable.
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Not quite sure what Duramax you are talking about. It has only been around for a few years, and has changed almost each and every year.

The Cummins is my choice. Not because I own one, but because they have been around for a long time. My friends uncle has a late 90's Cummins with over 600K on the ticker. Besides you gotta love the rattle of the old 12v's. I would get an early 2007 though, to avoid all the emissions.
Edit : david ya beat me lol.

Not so.

01-04 LB7 Some injector issues. Mostly solved by the 200k 7 yr warranty.

04.5-05 LLY Some overheat. 700 bucks to make it a non issue.

06-07 LBZ No known major problems IMO 6 speed tranny is a huge plus.

07.5-08 LMM Looks good so far. Milage suffers b/c of new emmisions requirements. There are a few examples rolling around with 100k+ miles and still running strong. Solutions to remove the emissions equipment are readily available.

The Allison is bullet proof with a stock tune.

If I had to do it right now I'd get an 07 LBZ. 6 speed, 100k power train warranty in 07 only. There are parts available to make the IFS extremely durable and make it a non issue.

If I wanted to save some cash a low mile 04 LB7 would be the ticket. Still 3 years of injector warranty and new style interior.

With a few upgrades theyre the tits IMO.

You want dodge, an 06-07 5.9 is the way to go. Ford, eh.

I guess I'm biased, lol
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I know I spanked 2 Dodges going to Moab with my Ford, both broke, I know I got great mileage as well.
I also hate the interior of a Dodge, they have no room unless you pay extra for the quad cab.
My second choice would be a Chevy.
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I'm only looking at the new trucks.
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Duramax LMM great...but I felt it lacked power for some reason when I test drove one & they look ugly as fawk unless they're lifted. Reason why I went with an 06.
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I'm only looking at the new trucks.
Any plans to mod it or lift?

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Mega Cab 4x4 Dodge 3500. That is what I wish I would have got. I would TRY to find a grandpa owned late 07 for the 5.9L Cummins. All I can say is you dont see any V8 diesels running down the road in 18 wheelers (well very few anyway). Probably a reason for that. I-6 all the way.
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Mega Cab 4x4 Dodge 3500. That is what I wish I would have got. I would TRY to find a grandpa owned late 07 for the 5.9L Cummins. All I can say is you dont see any V8 diesels running down the road in 18 wheelers (well very few anyway). Probably a reason for that. I-6 all the way.

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I've had a superduty and I put 5 transmissions in it and I babied the crap out of it.

Then I bought a Chevy and could not stand the sakes and rattles it made all the time.

Now I own a Dodge with the 5.9 HO cummins. I love the way it pulls but it is limited on space in the cab for passengers. Doesn't matter to me since I'm the one doing the driving.

Hopefully me next truck will be a Dodge 3500 megacab dually with a 6 speed. If Diesel keeps going up I'll be crawling back in my old 1988 1 ton with the 460 in it.



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Shakes & Rattles? lol Mine rides like crap right now. But with 30K, I think the factory shocks are shot. I'll give an update after installing the Bilsteins all the way around with the Cognito braces & alignment this weekend
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get what you feel comfortable with , drive all three and compare, everybody has a bias , i cant stand dodge products unless it has 426 hemi, but you will be driving it everyday. i have 06 chevy 2600 6l and glad gas cost a dollar a gallon less than diesel lol
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unless you tow at 80mph every other weekend I would not over look a good ol' gas motor, the price of the diesel option, cost of maintenance and the higher price of diesel fuel these days just don't make as much sence as it did 2 years ago.... I get between 15-17.5 towing/city and 23.4 unloaded highway with my 07' GMC 1500 crew cab W/HP tuners (programmed by me).
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Well see, we (me, George, Eric, Mark and a few other people on here) are in the oil business so we dont see the economy as "normal" people do. The more it goes up the more we like it......job security baby!!!

I would NEVER go back to a gas vehicle again, EVER! You can say whatever you want about about maintenance cost. You only gotta change that oil ever 10K miles in a diesel vs. 3-5K in a gas burner. And when the gas motor is wore out at 150K or so the diesel is just starting to run right.
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My vote goes for dodge for a diesel truck. I love my 05 w/6spd. I mainly got it for the engine, but I like the rest of the truck too. It will pull just about anything I could put behind it and cummins makes a great engine.

I've always pretty much been a chevy guy, but one with a diesel under the hood costs way too much, even used. I think Isuzu makes the blocks out of gold. Plus IFS sucks and is harder to work on when stuff starts wearing out. There are also a lot more moving parts.

The interior of my truck is much tighter than my mom's gmc that she had. She got the truck brand new and it never saw anything other than pavement and mileage on the two trucks was about the same.

AFAIK, the duramax is a decent engine. Only problems I've heard of were some injector issues on some of the earlier models. I wouldnt even touch a post 7.3 ford, I prefer to drive my truck instead of having it sit at the shop all the time. The v8 diesels also are harder to work on since they take up more space under the hood.

Every person has a different opinion of what's better. You will just need to decide what truck will suite you best. Drive all of them, and do lots of research to see what the problems of each are.
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