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Old 10-01-2010, 06:45 PM   #1
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Digging a Stock Pond

My Neighbor just had his pond re-dug and cleaned up after 3 years of sitting with no use. I went and talked to the guy doing it and have the chance to put on in here on my property. it would be a little less than one acre. I am trying to decide if I want to do it. It would be about 10 feet deep at the deep end and 8 at the shallow.

Has anyone ever had a pond this small? How did you like living with it? Can it be stocked and hold fish well? What should I look for or think about?


Two things that are helping justifying the expense, One I have to buy about 30 loads of dirt to fix the drainage problem I have right now. I would not need to do that and he would fix the drainage while the pond is being dug. Also, this would clean up all the stumps left from Rita and Ike.

So who has experience with this and what do you guys think?
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:07 PM   #2
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Best bet is to have about 20' of water depth at the dam end with a channel that runs up the center to where water will drain in at. Keep the far end of the channel about 10' deep and have it slope to the 20' end. Have at least a 4' drop from the side flats into the channel to have a good fishing pond. And stack piles of rocks on the side flats for structure.
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As far as depth goes, isn't there some concern about digging thru a clay layer that would normally hold the water? The natural lakes wash the topsoil off and are left with the clay layer that holds the water.

I've seen the pond diggers collect the clay while digging the pond to the proper depth, then spreading the clay on the inside.

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That is hard to do in this area and water will come in at the bottom. Remember I am damn near sea level now i would like to go 20 feet but not sure if that is possible given the location and seepage we have in this area. Usually anything over 6 or 8 will stay clear and clean.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:07 PM   #5
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Dig it down and pack the bottom with bentinite (sp?) it will seal it solid.
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Dig it down and pack the bottom with bentinite (sp?) it will seal it solid.
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Bentonite. I have heard of it being used as a moisture barrier on roads. I will look into that though I may not need it. We have Piney Ridge clay here. A silty sand with very High clay content under Gumbo clay. Do you know where you can order Bentonite?
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the only thing is, with no water source other underground water, do I really want a massive water barrier? the seepage will be incoming not out going.
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You need to go and talk to the guys with the USDA. They have lots of money this year for ponds. Even if they have already used all the money up this year they can still tell you the best way to build your pond.
I can help you get some bentonite if you want some, but over there near Beaumont like you are you some enough clay in the ground.
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Yes, George speaks the the truth. Get some of that guvment money if they have it! I want to try and get some this year for my new place if possible.
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You need to go and talk to the guys with the USDA. They have lots of money this year for ponds. Even if they have already used all the money up this year they can still tell you the best way to build your pond.
I can help you get some bentonite if you want some, but over there near Beaumont like you are you some enough clay in the ground.
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Yes, George speaks the the truth. Get some of that guvment money if they have it! I want to try and get some this year for my new place if possible.

Link? I have a pond that wont hold water and I would like to make it bigger.
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You need to go and talk to the guys with the USDA. They have lots of money this year for ponds. Even if they have already used all the money up this year they can still tell you the best way to build your pond.

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thats what i did. they will also come out & look at your property & tell you the best bet.
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Got a link or POC at the USDA for help with pond building? Have a friend with a ranch that could use some help.
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USDA.gov should get you started, but the phone book is best. There are things you have to do to get the money, and if you ever sale the place you may have to pay it back or the new owner will have to agree to the contract.
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My parents have a pond about the size you are talking about. It is only a couple of years old but they have perch and some bass in it. I wil take a pic tomorrow. They have one advange and that it has some water shed and a small natural spring feeds it some times.
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DO NOT TAKE THE GUBERMENT MONEY!!!!!

We already have enough Obubba nut swingers bleeding us dry.

As soon as you take .gov funds you are bound by their rules. Basicly the pond is yours until they see otherwise or it suits there needs to fawk you. DO NOT TAKE THERE MONEY OR HELP!!!

Go to your local farm and ranch store. They can get bentonite for you. It comes in 50# bags like quickcrete. The stuff will seal sand solid. It creates a slime barrier in the soil that prevents water from leaking out or in. Basicly it promotes the natural slime barrier that exists in natural lakes and ponds.

On my old ranch we built and rebuilt several tanks to hold run off water. The creek bed under the soil was 20' of gravel and rock. We dug a trench down threw it and layered it back in with what was dug and coatings of bentonite. They never leaked a drop. Before that below the dams water would seep thru and it was always wet like a sponge.
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I am always leery about taking government grants. usually the fine print is not worth it. i like to the think of it a Broom handle up my Arse forever and Government has there hand on that broom stick at all time, they move, you move.
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I am always leery about taking government grants. usually the fine print is not worth it. i like to the think of it a Broom handle up my Arse forever and Government has there hand on that broom stick at all time, they move, you move.
Good analogy. But update it to the .gov holding the base of the handle and whipping it like a fly swatter.
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DO NOT TAKE THE GUBERMENT MONEY!!!!!

We already have enough Obubba nut swingers bleeding us dry.

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I pay over $5,500/month in taxes. I'm not a Obubba nut swinger, I'm just getting my money back I already paid into the system. The I look at it is I would be a fool not to use it. This year I have contracts with the goverment to clear the 30 acres I just bought and plant it in hay so I can grow more cows on it. Next year I'll get a contract and they will cross fence the place so I can do proper pasture rotation, and the year after that they will put the ponds in.
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I pay over $5,500/month in taxes. I'm not a Obubba nut swinger, I'm just getting my money back I already paid into the system. The I look at it is I would be a fool not to use it. This year I have contracts with the goverment to clear the 30 acres I just bought and plant it in hay so I can grow more cows on it. Next year I'll get a contract and they will cross fence the place so I can do proper pasture rotation, and the year after that they will put the ponds in.
And when they come calling with their BS after you took their money you will just get bent over and reamed in the @ss.
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