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Old 03-27-2008, 02:39 PM   #1
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Hauling Costs

Ok, with the price of fuel, what are yall charging/paying to have a vehicle hauled on a trip. I am usually too laid back to outright tell somebody that it will cost x dollars for said trip, so if everybody knew I had a formula to calculate it by the mile it might help a bit. Here is how I figure my cost per mile now

(all number below are close estimates to my truck and price of diesel now)

1. Cost per Gallon ($4.00 for example) / Miles per Gallon (12 towing MPG) = $/mile ($0.33)

2. $/mile ($0.33) / Number of vehicles being hauled (2) = Cost per mile per rig on trailer ($0.165)

3. CPMPROT ($0.165) X Total trip mileage (540-round trip from College Station to Trees) =$89.10

These numbers don't take into account wear and tear on tires, maintenance, or insurance. They are just purely a fuel cost. Does that seem like a fair number? Is it too high, too low? What do you pay/expect someone to pay? How do you split the cost when you are only towing someone elses rig and just ride the trails with them?

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I never thought about it, but that sounds really fair.... maybe for getting the "opportunity" to ride the trails with him you could also pay the fee to get in and depending on how good of buddies you are, it sounds fair to me.... good luck
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When calculating fuel costs give yourself a little room for error. You will almost always come up short. Things like wind and traffic can affect your milage more than you think. Just ask BlownOut.
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I think at work they give us .55 to the mile
as for just for the ride to sitting shootgun. I figure 1/4 of the cost...but then again they keep you company so I wouldn't charge.
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as far as the ride.... i guess it's what they have, if you have to get out and work on it.... you have to charge them just to let you ride... lol j/k maybe they can give extra
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also depends on if your pulling a Sammi/Zuk or one ton full size heavy rig. More weight is more fuel cost.
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The rate that I am paying now for guys driving is .485 cents a mile. I wouldn't be suprised if that goes up soon. Oh and they are NOT pulling anything!
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I do computer work and I am able to charge .445 per mile For my mileage to the customers site. That is the government set rate for mileage reimbursement for fuel and wear and tear. I would take that number and add some to it if I was hauling to make some money.
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Ok, let me clarify that I am not looking for 'for hire' prices (though that is a pretty valid topic nowdays also), but for towing a buddies (and your own if you have a large enough trailer) rig to the trail and just need a fair price so neither feels like they are footing the entire bill of the trip. If I were to be hauling 'for hire', I would add probably $0.20/mile to cover maintenance and other various costs. Yes, this all depends on your tow rig, fuel prices, trailer type, weight of load, and terrain/weather. Actually hauling for a living is a whole other story. There is loads more that are involved in that since most of the time you will need a CDL to legaly haul a lot of loads on a large gooseneck.

Here is a picture of one of the last times I hauled on a trip so you see how everyones numbers in my first post may be different. That gooseneck of mine is a little on the heavy side, but there isn't anything short of a large dozer that I wouln't haul on it.


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Most of the time when I ride with a buddy I always just offer to pay for half. Only seems fair that I would pitch in, however I do know people that no matter what are always looking out for themselves and would NEVER offer to help pay. If you can't afford the gas to play then keep your ***** at home! My 2 cents!!
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Back in my younger, healthier days (read: not as damn fat) I learned a hard lesson about hauling.

I was in the process of moving between Lubbock and Nashville. It required a few trips back and forth in my little Mazda B2200 pickup. I got about 350 miles to a tank of gas, slightly more on the highway. On the last trip, a buddy of mine asked if he could ride along to DFW which was "home" during the summer. He was a big ol' boy, about 6'2", 360 lbs. or so, and a couple hundred pounds of "stuff". I agreed without question though, and we took off that weekend. The further we got from Lubbock, the more I started to realize my error. I dreadfully watched my gas gauge dump, and became concerned by the time we hit the interstate. I don't think I got 200 miles out of that tank.

When I dropped him off at his grandma's house I hit him up about topping off my tank. I'd already had to stop and refill and it was only down a few gallons, probably less than $10 at the time. He just shrugged his shoulders and said, "I'll catch ya next time..." I ain't seen him since.

Anymore if I'm hauling stuff for someone else my formula's a little simpler than $/mile. I fill up the tank before we leave. The next tank is on them. If we're both getting something out of the deal, I don't worry about how much is left when we get back home. If I'm doing it just for them--they fill it up before we unload their junk.
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If you're hauling thier junk to the trail and only their junk, then I think it's fair they pay for most, if not all, of the fuel. If they are paying your way into the ranch, feeding you, etc etc, then maybe you could spring for half, but if you're on your own for that stuff, it's only fair for your friend to pay for the hauling of HIS rig. Now, if you're hauling yours and his, then half the fuel seems fair. It was one thing when fuel was $1.69 a couple years ago, but it's gold now.

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Pulling mine and someone else's rig, I ask for 1/2 the fuel.
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Set up whatever you decide is fair, ahead of time. Make sure your friend is aware that you're not supplying the fuel, just the truck/trailer in trade for a ride in his rig. Surprises could be bad depening on the person.

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I agree with Dubbyx. I will usually pay one way, and the other pays the return trip, or vice versa. If there is more than 2 people, then we alternate. I never have enough money, but if I end up getting screwed, I don't worry about it. The next time we go somewhere its their truck(if applicable) and I screw them the same way. If they don't have the means(its not applicable), then they don't get an invite. Plain, and simple.
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if i tow someone they pay for all the fuel and can usually talk them into a meal for actually driving and using all my stuff. but if i was going to have my truck on the trailer as well i'd chip in some but they would pay more since we are still using my trailer/tow rig etc...
when asking a buddy to use his tow rig to tow i said i would cover all of the fuel and his next oil change. he thought it was fair
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This is old chit chat now but what I'd do is quit hauling those guys rigs for free and get some grownup buddies that are gainfully employed. If they don't want to or can't pay 70%(if your rig is on the trailer) of the total expenses they need to take up pool, badminton or some other interest that's not so taxing on their budget. A good way to do that is before you leave on the trip everyone that your hauling is going put a hundred dollar bill in a 'clean' mayo jar(the haul rig pays 30% of gas,blown tires,flats,tickets,etc.) and when it's gone, everybody divy up again. Bet they'd be tickled to buy 70% if they can possibly understand that you have 45 G's tied up in haul rig. That is unless you're the big 'daddy' with more money than you can spend...........
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This is old chit chat now but what I'd do is quit hauling those guys rigs for free and get some grownup buddies that are gainfully employed. If they don't want to or can't pay 70%(if your rig is on the trailer) of the total expenses they need to take up pool, badminton or some other interest that's not so taxing on their budget. A good way to do that is before you leave on the trip everyone that your hauling is going put a hundred dollar bill in a 'clean' mayo jar(the haul rig pays 30% of gas,blown tires,flats,tickets,etc.) and when it's gone, everybody divy up again. Bet they'd be tickled to buy 70% if they can possibly understand that you have 45 G's tied up in haul rig. That is unless you're the big 'daddy' with more money than you can spend...........


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In a way it's annoying, but at the same time you get to know the newbie by how he respond to it.
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It's kind of funny this got drug up though, I just updated the 'mirror' to this one on our club board and was about to do the same here. This is what I wrote.

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Fuel Costs: At ~$2.40/gallon, I was running about $0.33/mile at an average of 7.3 mpg w/ the 40'er and 3 rigs (roughly 11 cents/mile/rig). I think Jerry and Creighton were probably doing about 5 to 8 cents per mile better with only two rigs, yet the cost per rig still being about the same. What that all works out to for future reference is ~$0.06 per mile per dollar of diesel (or .06 * total mileage * cost per gallon average or 0.06 * 2100 miles * $2.40 for a total of $302 per rig). The cost per rig was just under that, but it gets you pretty close to what it will be. $0.055 will get you right on the money pretty much, but it's better to judge a bit higher and come out cheaper in the end.
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I usually do the 50% thing, and it comes out OK even considering tires, wear & tear. If I'm going by myself it will cost $XX. The additional rig will add another ~10-20% above what I'm expecting. So if I am paying $100 just for me, and the added weight causes the total to be $120, then I'd say $60 is more than fair. I saved $40, and another rig made the run.
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What if said wheeling buddy asks you to tag along as a spotter, are you still obliged to pitch in?


Anyway, that's why I have my tow rig & will be getting my 18 footer to haul my junk. There's too much BS and drama to go through even among friends.
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well If I asked my friend to haul my truck to a event and not his I would expect to pay all fuel cost ... but thats me ..... if I asked to tag along cause he had a double trailer I would pay for half the fuel cause thats me ... now if he asked me to come along I would just help pay for what ever amount he asked for .... but I have my own trail so I dont have to ask and it makes it easyer ... but alot more costly ... I did have a "friend " offer to haul mine and his rig someplace if I paid all the fuel cost ... I declined
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