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Old 03-06-2011, 08:55 PM   #1
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Need advice on new project

Well it's finally happened, I'm getting sick of the whole mud scene. I'm now wanting to build a crawler. The question is, should I just lower and link my k5 and throw some DOT's on it? Or should I just tear it apart and use the parts to build rig with a smaller body? I'm somewhat new to the whole trail scene, so will I hate myself later for building a full-size rig for tight trails? It's going to have rockwells either way.
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For crawling, you want a low center of gravity, tires that stick out past the body and bumpers, maximum ground clearance with low overall height, low low gears.

You can buy a rig cheaper than you can build it.
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Old 03-07-2011, 05:47 AM   #4
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Same old stuff daryll. Just getting ready to start another project. I pretty much have the majority of the stuff the build it.


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I hate myself later for building a full-size rig for tight trails? It's going to have rockwells either way.
Rockwells---- tight trails? I wouldn't use the full size body your going to have to cut it chop it then go out and smash it on the rocks. Look at the 321 kits makes more sense to me.


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What's the fun in that?
Well, if you don't like saving money, I have some parts to sell you, LOL
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I'll keep that in mind....lol
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You can take my advice with a grain of salt, it really doesn't matter but here is my perspective. I have had the bigger heavier rigs that seemed bulletproof. Sure it was nice but when I had a little rig right next to me that was lighter and smaller kicking my butt it kinda sucked. Now that I have the Lighter smaller rig (Toyota) I am feeling pretty confident I am much more happy.

So what I am saying is rockwells are nice but make sure you lose weight in other areas and make it small. I truly believe a lighter rig with a balanced suspension and decent power ratio will kill a big heavy humongous tire type of rig and a few guys on texas4x4 actually understand what I mean. Good luck with whatever you decide!
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Yea, maybe it's time to sell the k5 and start over
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I'm with offroadman83 on this. I have had big heavy rigs and I have had small light rigs. I prefer the smaller, lighter rigs. I traded my k5 on rocks and 44's for a Toyota on 36's and havent regretted it yet!
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I'm with offroadman83 on this. I have had big heavy rigs and I have had small light rigs. I prefer the smaller, lighter rigs. I traded my k5 on rocks and 44's for a Toyota on 36's and havent regretted it yet!
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Put it up for trade like Mitch did. You never know. Find you a little toyota that is built or a jeep with tons under it. Or just ask Brugg33 to trade you for something since that's all he does!
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Lol. I might throw it on craigslist and see what comes up. I have no idea what it's even worth.
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i prefer a yota. i am an ex jeep guy! cost too much to build! think LIGHT!! big heavy axles and tires in texas?? don't need it!! my yota has surprised an ex werock competitor! what ever you decide, keep it light!!
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I'm thinking in the lines of a Sammy, yota or heep. It would be nice To be able to haul it around on something other than my 30ft float like I do with my K5.
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I'm thinking in the lines of a Sammy, yota or heep. It would be nice To be able to haul it around on something other than my 30ft float like I do with my K5.
14' deck by 77" wide.



Sure is nice not having to haul it on a 20' gooseneck.
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Thanks for clarifying that. I was thinking it was 14' hitch to rear!
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Thanks for clarifying that. I was thinking it was 14' hitch to rear!




On what to build, I'd also say go light as I've had a fat Rockwelled rig before getting the Zuki done. I know one day I'm going to want another Rockwelled rig but until then I'll enjoy wheeling my light weight rig.


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Well the blazer is gone. Now I'm kind of leaning towards an open top small that will see the occasional trips into town or my local fishing spot. I'm thinking along the lines of a cj or yj that I can slowly build up over time. But a buddy of mine has a rig I went and looked at today. It's a 1972 toyota fj40 landcruiser. It runs and drives but needs a few cosmetic and mechanical things. The body has zero rust and decent interior. It has an in-line 6 that runs ok but needs a tune up. It's been updated to electronic ignition already and comes with a ton of parts includIng all the stuff to put power steering and a new fuel tank. The body was taken off and the frame and axles have been repainted.
What does everyone think? Should I pull the trigger? Would it make a decent wheeler with a little work?
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