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Awesome Bill · 05-09-2013, 07:03 AM

If you worked for a large company and they told you that there would be a mandatory meeting at a location 5 hours away would you expect them to pay for your fuel to get there? No options to rent a van or anything like that just you driving your car there. Whatchu think?

Bunker Buster · 05-09-2013, 07:13 AM

That's why we use WebEx.

I have meetings every day with people all over the country and this saves a lot of expense.

But to answer your question, I would at least expect to be paid for the time spent driving and the going rate for mileage. That's how previous companies have done for me anyway.

Awesome Bill · 05-09-2013, 07:22 AM

The things that will happen at the meeting will require physical activity so webex isn't an option. That would be cool just not an option in this case.

brent460 · 05-09-2013, 07:44 AM

I would expect some sort of reimbursement for all travel expenses fuel, food, lodging.

mudnmyvayne · 05-09-2013, 07:46 AM

Fuel and time.
Neither are free.

51JeepWillys · 05-09-2013, 07:49 AM

Well if they make it mandatory then they can hold ya to it. Would you rather drive 5 hours and keep your job or say f it and not have a job after the meeting is over and you didnt go......thats kinda the way i see it.

Awesome Bill · 05-09-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by brent460

I would expect some sort of reimbursement for all travel expenses fuel, food, lodging.

Hotel will be paid for. Everything else will not be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudnmyvayne

Fuel and time.
Neither are free.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by 51JeepWillys

Well if they make it mandatory then they can hold ya to it. Would you rather drive 5 hours and keep your job or say f it and not have a job after the meeting is over and you didnt go......thats kinda the way i see it.

Sticky situation for sure.

maskale · 05-09-2013, 08:00 AM

Yes you should be paid for your time and gas rate, I think its up around .45-.50 a mile. Im gussing you wont be back home that day, so they need to give you a room and perdim.

Mitch · 05-09-2013, 08:00 AM

If I were you, I'd take your delivery truck, their truck and fuel. Stickin it to the man!

maskale · 05-09-2013, 08:04 AM

check the labor laws, they may not beable to force you to do something like that.

Hiapo · 05-09-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by maskale

check the labor laws, they may not beable to force you to do something like that.

This, it is actual illegal but rarely enforced. You must be paid for travel time if they make you do it, I would keep track of everything and file a complaint with the labor board. My mom just went through the same thing with travel pay, the company wasnt paying her and she is required to be payed by law. She decided it wasnt worth getting fired over(i think she is crazy).

I would look at labor laws for sure because its is different for exempt and non exempt employees.

This is coming from someone who once in awhile listens to his wife talk about work as a CPA.

GIJoe4500 · 05-09-2013, 08:20 AM

Current GSA rate is $0.565/mile. Just got paid to drive to and from Oswego, NY. If they don't pay you for it, you can write it off on your taxes at the end of the year.

dustin_mud · 05-09-2013, 08:35 AM

Hard to see them holding it against you, if it was me I couldn't go because I couldn't pay for my fuel.

Awesome Bill · 05-09-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dustin_mud

Hard to see them holding it against you, if it was me I couldn't go because I couldn't pay for my fuel.

Thinking this might be what gets said. Kinda put the ball in there quart so to speak. They will either step up and volunteer to pay or tell me I'm fired in which case I could report them.

dag4566 · 05-09-2013, 08:48 AM

Sounds like what a shitty company calls a "problem employee" lol

Travel time and fuel outside commuting are paid by law

90'K5 · 05-09-2013, 09:21 AM

I would use the fuel excuse.

However, you may want to check your employment contract to see what the travel clause says. You may have agreed to accept expense responsibility.

Monstercrawler · 05-09-2013, 09:48 AM

We have manditory meetings all the time on Sat and we don't get paid jack for it.

But

I'd have a hard time driving 5 hours and not getting paid for it.

.

51JeepWillys · 05-09-2013, 09:51 AM

Well then again if you are union then you dont have to dick

hotrodbill · 05-09-2013, 10:24 AM

I would either get paid for fuel, time, lodging or I would not go.

I make trips to DFW for training, I get paid a lesser rate than if I was at work but I do get paid.
I have to keep all my reciepts and submit them, and they reimburse me later.

Your expenses are tax deductable, but unless you itemize your taxes and your expenses are greater than the standard deduction you still lose money. I itemize my taxes because I buy tools and other work expenses too.

Turbos10 · 05-09-2013, 11:14 AM

I think it depends alot on what you do and how you are compensated. I used to travel for a living and I always got mileage and per dium. I was also on salary, so if it took 3 days or 6 days for the weeks work the pay was the same although there was a minimum hourly expectation for a week.

If you work by the hour in a store every day, then I would expect to be paid for everything.

If some travel is expected as part of your compensation package or it is not out of the ordinary to travel some distance, then I would not expect you to be paid.

Need more details IMHO.

Awesome Bill · 05-09-2013, 11:29 AM

I'm a local route driver and never have to stay out of town. None of the guys here do. As far as I know not one of the employees state wide have to stay anywhere over night. I've never even been to the place I'm going. It's just the place we "report" to. Amarillo, Lubbock, midland, Odessa and I think a few others report to San Angelo. We are the farthest away.

Called a driver I know in Lubbock to ask him about it and he said they told them it wasn't a mandatory meeting so none of the drivers or managers from there are going....so it sounds like Corprate is saying one thing and our immediate managers are saying another..

The chit might hit the fan when I get back today.

weekend 4 wheelers · 05-09-2013, 11:35 AM

I would just go and pay out of pocket for the gas. A good job is hard to come by for some. I have never had a problem but depends on the trade.

brug33 · 05-09-2013, 11:56 AM

What are you talking $150 max??

Awesome Bill · 05-09-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brug33

What are you talking $150 max??

If I took my truck it won't quite make it 5 hours. So probably two and a half tanks. Probably a lil over $200.

Awesome Bill · 05-09-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by weekend 4 wheelers

I would just go and pay out of pocket for the gas. A good job is hard to come by for some. I have never had a problem but depends on the trade.

I probably will just be a puss and suck it up and go. Kinda depends on how it goes when I get back today. Might go then let corporate know face to face how I feel. I love it that the good lord blessed me with a big mouth.

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51JeepWillys Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Rockridge Posts: 5,823	Well if they make it mandatory then they can hold ya to it. Would you rather drive 5 hours and keep your job or say f it and not have a job after the meeting is over and you didnt go......thats kinda the way i see it. __________________ I'm just a flat biller with flipped up tow mirrors Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook brug33 likes this.

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maskale Trail guide Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Lake Jackson, TX Posts: 279	Yes you should be paid for your time and gas rate, I think its up around .45-.50 a mile. Im gussing you wont be back home that day, so they need to give you a room and perdim. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

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maskale Trail guide Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Lake Jackson, TX Posts: 279	check the labor laws, they may not beable to force you to do something like that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

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GIJoe4500 Flex Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,321	Current GSA rate is $0.565/mile. Just got paid to drive to and from Oswego, NY. If they don't pay you for it, you can write it off on your taxes at the end of the year. __________________ a malware free forum, with tapatalk and an owner who actually participates in the forum? i think yes. www.texaswheelin.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

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dustin_mud Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ft worth Posts: 3,303	Hard to see them holding it against you, if it was me I couldn't go because I couldn't pay for my fuel. __________________ Who knows? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook brug33 likes this.

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90'K5 Gonzo Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burleson Posts: 2,647	I would use the fuel excuse. However, you may want to check your employment contract to see what the travel clause says. You may have agreed to accept expense responsibility. __________________ 90'K5, STAK3, 60/80, 5.13's, 44PBR's Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

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hotrodbill Trail guide Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 263	I would either get paid for fuel, time, lodging or I would not go. I make trips to DFW for training, I get paid a lesser rate than if I was at work but I do get paid. I have to keep all my reciepts and submit them, and they reimburse me later. Your expenses are tax deductable, but unless you itemize your taxes and your expenses are greater than the standard deduction you still lose money. I itemize my taxes because I buy tools and other work expenses too. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

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Turbos10 Flex Master Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Stephenville Posts: 1,532	I think it depends alot on what you do and how you are compensated. I used to travel for a living and I always got mileage and per dium. I was also on salary, so if it took 3 days or 6 days for the weeks work the pay was the same although there was a minimum hourly expectation for a week. If you work by the hour in a store every day, then I would expect to be paid for everything. If some travel is expected as part of your compensation package or it is not out of the ordinary to travel some distance, then I would not expect you to be paid. Need more details IMHO. __________________ CJ2 fiberglass and tube buggy, L67 supercharged 6, RVB Art Carr 700R4, 3.8 Atlas, 60's welded/detroit, 40" Sticky Creepies, and a whole lotta SLOW because I dont want to break any more. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

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