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Old 12-05-2005, 11:02 PM   #1
 
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Jeep VS 73-87 K5 Blazer...

I cant make up my mind as to which one I want. I love the big body and space of the K5. But I love that the Jeep doesnt need alot of work to do anything. Or am I wrong. Please list pro's and con's. Thank You. Also anyone know of a free K5 site. CK5.com charges.
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Either one will require mods to make them a capable rig, it just depends on what type of trails you intend to wheel on how extensive those mods get. I would pick the one you really like the most and start from that point.



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lift gears and lockers will cost you ABOUT the same for either one so build up cost is about the same Stock Jeep "fit" more place with out body damage but if you dont care about that the room rocks I went up to a bigger body rig and I now going back to a smaller one cause I dont want to smash the full body up so think about what you want out of it ... and how hard your willing to push what you got .... all the midnight guy show us that full bodys fit anyware and it'll always buff out .... also I say build a 73-79 FJ40
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Jeep rules. Blazer Rock. Toys Play

Lots of K5's right here, what you wanna know?

also visit Austink5.net, most of the members there are members here as well. Bowtie, Rvreddog, Micah, txbluethunder, mudgod, Rastus #1 in kool, python, 77mudbuddy, and lots others all are full of bs I mean knowledge on K5's.. between those guys there is very little that has not been done to a K5. So why go anywhere else???
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Hmm, I like a lighter/smaller rig myself. I say get the jeep, the K5's gotta have at least 1000-1500 lbs., if not more, on a jeep.
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Thanks for all the replies. Im leaning more towards the K5. A K5 with a 4 inch lift and 35's. Would be equivalent to what on a jeep? As far as trails go. I live in Augusta, Ga. Lots of trees never been trailing there before. I would get my rig there. I also plan to move to El Paso, TX. Nothing but sand there. What do you all think?
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Any of the three are great to build. Depending on how much you would like to spend on Mods. Wild Bill on AK5 has a toyota that goes beyond what Rastus Quotes as "play."
I have a 1980 toyota with a junkyard lift from p-n-p and 33's(Used). Total cost about $420. IMO i think you can get away with 35's with stock axles easy. (Depending on the lift with the 35's and may need to regear.)
I have open diffs and relatively hold my own for just the two mods I stated above.
Also depends on what kind of wheeling you plan on doing. Their are plenty of cites for yoda Q's and buying parts.
Growing up I say I was diehard chevy all the way. Never owned any other make. I bought my toy for $700. I have had great respect for the truck. My friends Z71 (stock) doesn't compare to what I can do versus his truck out on the trails.
Being that you haven't bought your choice yet. I would say get what you have most experinace with. So that you can do most of the mods yourself and save yourself lots of $$.
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I like my S-10 blazer truggy, 4.3L V6 has plenty of torque and power but a little lighter than a 350, the 700r4 is a good tranny with a low 1st gear for an auto, the np231 can accept 4:1 gears. The lighter weight allows me to get away with d44 and 12 bolt instead of d60 and 14 bolt. Wish I had gone with this setup to begin with 3 years ago. The only problem with the K5 is the huge size and most people end up cutting most of it off anyway in 1 to 2 years. The jeeps tend to stay with sheetmetal for a longer period of time. Just dont listen to TX_ZUKI, he will try to talk you into an underpowered zuk. lol
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I used to be a Jeep man, but saying that they don't need anything is crazy. If you put any think under the Jeep other than the stock axles you have to cut all the mounts out of there and then build your own.....that is stupid since you can get a K5 and D60 bolts right in! You have to change motor mounts to get a decent engine in there (unless you stick with Jeep family V-8's) You also have to change the crossmember to get a decent tranny/tcase....unless you stick with the Jeep stuff. Most Jeeps that are modded are basically a Chevy powerplant (350/SM456 or auto and then adapt to the D300) Go K5 you can get parts out of anybodys back pasture for the most part.
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actually ck5 does not charge for just a general membership. granted you only have limited access to most of the forums but can still read most of the garage and other forums, you just can't get pm's or reply in some of the forums.

there is a lot of k5 guys here and some jeep guys. this site is free, however it is not free to run. a paying member is greatly appreciated to help keep this site up and running. Rastus has made this site come a long way from when i stumbled upon it while voting on the top4x4 site for another site. we have runs where everyone has a great time and helps each other and we have a great group of wheelers with a wide knowledge base. we are some of the nicest and friendliest people on the net.

austink5 is a great site also. i have met and dealed with most of the guys on there. they are very knowledgable and range from mild to extreme. they are also some of the nicest and friendliest guys i have met. micah, nonesuch, and the guys have done a great job building their site.

now my opinions;
in the blazer world: try to get an 87 up model (btw, the older style blazers go all the way to 91)for the fuel injection. the early 700's have failure problems that were for the most part worked out by the later years. like clint said, they have a low first gear (3.06). the 208 transfer case is not really a bad case. lighter than the cast iron since it is aluminum and with a lower low range (2.61 as opposed to the 1.96 in the 205 and 2.00 in the 203) the bad is that is hard to get rid of the slip yoke unless you use parts from a dodge and that it is more susceptible to breaks if you slam it on a rock. the later models, some 88's and then on, have a 241 case which has a 2.72 low range and you can also get a slip yoke eleminator aftermarket for them. oldgoat runs a 208 with a klune in front of it in his dodge.
now a lot of sites will tell you to run out, buy a 60/14 and at least some 40's and hack the body. i say, buy the 4 inch lift. start with a decent brand. bds, tuff country and i would even say the skyjacker soft rides or superlift easy rides to get the articulation. the stiffer the spring the less articulation you will have. for the rear, do a shackle flip, either a bought one or do it yourself, although you can wheel with blocks as clint can attest when he had his bronco. 35's can be had reasonably cheap, there are 2 sets available right now on this site, one set of bfg all-terrains and one set of bfg mud's with wheels which happen to fit a blazer. so 4 inch lift and 35's. take it out and wheel it and see what feels good for you. you might decide this setup works good for you. you might decide that you want to go extreme and bust out the sawzall and get the bigger tires. but as with any project, more extreme is more work and more details to get it just right.

jeeps: light weight to begin with and smaller body. again, i would go for a later model with fuel injection. axles are generally the weakest link in a jeep. thumper brings up a good point, most jeeps run other drivetrains (as do the toy guys) with chevy being the most popular. most jeepers upgrade to dana 44's (scouts, chevy fronts) or a dana 60 and something like another 44 in the rear or even a 14 bolt or 60. it all depends on what tire size and motor you are running. the jeep is lighter and some guys run smaller tires with lighter axles. if you go with the jeep, i would start with enough lift to clear some 33's and see how you like it. the yj series is leaf springs while the later tj series is coil springs. the jeeps come with a 231 which you can get a low gearset for. (or even a dana 300 or 20 for that matter) the jeeps also have a very strong aftermarket support for them. you could even build a jeep with a frame from like afw (advanced frame works) or matkins; fiberglass, kevlar or steel body; axles from currie, dynatrac, ect; wiring harness from painless ect; suspension and all the assorted and related pieces can be found aftermarket. although that would be a rather expensive way to get a jeep. which will probably be more than a blazer to begin with if you buy a jeep.

now for both: is this going to be daily driver or a toy to go have fun with? you really don't want your daily driver to beat you to death on the way to work and wear out them tires day in and day out. is this vehicle going to be something you are prepared to take a loss on because once you start wheeling it and modifying it, it will be real hard to get all the money and work back out of it. i am sure in augusta there is a club of some sorts. you might try to see if you can go to a few meetings and get to know some of the wheelers and see if you can go on a run and ride along with some jeeps and blazers to see what you like.

just don't be like me. find out what you like and have fun. if you look at my sig, i have lots of fun toys, too bad they are perpetually broke (as i am) and as a result people get a lot of laughs at my expense. but it is alright because i know it is all coming together finally. and like i tell them "don't be a hater"
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no offense taken. i am a fount of knowledge but no practical experience like the guys that actually wheel. i can't wait to get something completed and actually start wheeling and wrenching.
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I like my S-10 blazer truggy, 4.3L V6 has plenty of torque and power but a little lighter than a 350, the 700r4 is a good tranny with a low 1st gear for an auto, the np231 can accept 4:1 gears. The lighter weight allows me to get away with d44 and 12 bolt instead of d60 and 14 bolt. Wish I had gone with this setup to begin with 3 years ago. The only problem with the K5 is the huge size and most people end up cutting most of it off anyway in 1 to 2 years. The jeeps tend to stay with sheetmetal for a longer period of time. Just dont listen to TX_ZUKI, he will try to talk you into an underpowered zuk. lol
Yes get a S-10 if you want to kill your fellow wheelers with fumes and be the local wheelers offical bug sprayer
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Yes get a S-10 if you want to kill your fellow wheelers with fumes and be the local wheelers offical bug sprayer
I'm gonna get Jonas to fix that next year for me, I promise!!! Maybe add a few other goodies while he's in there
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