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Old 12-09-2005, 11:41 PM   #1
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Checking out a new(used) 2004 2500 4X4, AWD larami hemi tomorrow. I made an offer and they accepted. Been lookin at diesels but to much cash. Dang chevy I wish they were solid axles. I will post pics if I buy this mofo!
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The Hemi will do just find, the jeep doesn't weigh near what a fullsize weighs. Plus you can stay with a lighter weight bumper pull car hauler typer trailer.

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I just swapped in a hemi to get my diesel, with what my hemi's used in gas i'm saving money even w/ the higher payment!!! Oh, and they don't pull worth a damn either!!! My chevy 6.0 would run circles around my hemi!!! Just my 2cents!!!
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:10 AM   #5
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I considered the fuel savings for the diesel and have found a few at a reasonable price. It is still in the back of my mind. I do like the chevy crew cabs/shortbed with the duramax and found a few of those but when I searched I found that people were replacing there injectors quite a bit.
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Guy i work with has had his duramax for 2 yrs now and has never had a problem w/ it!!! The stuff you are reading is more than likely from people who have them pumped up quite a bit!!!
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diesel is the way to go. I have had all 3 makes and they all out perform
gas by a large margin. pulling, mileage, you name it. I personally like the
powerstroke fords, but if you aren't doing a lot of heavy pulling the chevy
is a much better daily driver. The only thing I didn't like about my cummins
was that after a year it looked like it was was a 10 year old truck, the interiors just don't hold up (imho).
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I would go Cummins. I have a friend that has a Hemi in a 1/2 ton CC and he said he can't get over 10 mpg. My buddies 03 Dodge with an auto gets 16-17 (according to the overhead display) My dads Cummins, which is a 5 spd. gets about 19-20. Also consider the resale of the Cummins....a ton better than a gasser. There are quite a few mods you can do to the Cummins to bump up the fuel mileage and the only side effect is MORE POWER!!
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There are quite a few mods you can do to the Cummins to bump up the fuel mileage and the only side effect is MORE POWER!!
Banks makes a good kit for the dodge cummins.
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Those kits are pretty high. I would go with Edge comp box, some injectors, 4" alum. exhaust and nice intake.
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I've got a magnaflow 4" exhaust and edge juice on my 05 cummins 4wd and get about 17-19 depending on how you heavy your foot is!!! My Hemi was the same truck and i could barely get 10 out of it!!! Pulling my rig it only got about 8, which is the reason i swapped that baby!!!
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Bought the gasser hope fully I will not regret the decision. I will post pics when I charge my camera battery. Does anyone know how easy it is to remove the side trim off of a dodge? Is it easy will it leave holes?


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Well Ive got a 2500HD 2wd Hemi and it pulls everything I have put behind it so far super easy....

Mostly pull my Steel Car Hauler and JEEP so I would say apprx 7000 lbs, 40 ft 5th Toy hauler trailer with JEEP inside apprx 12500 lbs and havent seen any problems pulling or stopping....

( Not both trailers at the same time )

Now the fuel milage is not the best pulling loaded trailer is 10.5 mpg

Highway 80MPH is 25-28mpg
Town is 15-17mpg

Ive also had the gears changed to 4.56 -- I have spoken to lots of people on the HD Hemi and it likes to turn about 2500 rpm to stay in the best MPG and HP curve....

I been told that the factory 4.10 and down setups really dont do very well and really eat the gas.....

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Well Ive got a 2500HD 2wd Hemi and it pulls everything I have put behind it so far super easy....

Mostly pull my Steel Car Hauler and JEEP so I would say apprx 7000 lbs, 40 ft 5th Toy hauler trailer with JEEP inside apprx 12500 lbs and havent seen any problems pulling or stopping....

( Not both trailers at the same time )

Now the fuel milage is not the best pulling loaded trailer is 10.5 mpg

Highway 80MPH is 25-28mpg
Town is 15-17mpg

Ive also had the gears changed to 4.56 -- I have spoken to lots of people on the HD Hemi and it likes to turn about 2500 rpm to stay in the best MPG and HP curve....

I been told that the factory 4.10 and down setups really dont do very well and really eat the gas.....

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A 3/4 ton P/U with the Hemi getting 25-28MPG on the highway? How? Just curious.
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I call on that one. Dang Kia barely get that!!
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Well Ive made only a couple long distance trips in the 2500. And both trips we have averaged 25-28 MPG.

One trip was to Roswell New Mexico had the cruise set on 85-95MPH and the mpg up there and back was 28.

Another trip to Broken Bow, Oklahoma had the cruise on 70-80MPH and the mpg up and back was 26.

There are alot of poeple getting really great milage on the highway after changing out the factory for 4.56.... I have 4.56 in the rear and a nice tonnuea cover on the back... Plus it being a lowered 2wd make the aero dynamics better...

Ive found that if I keep my truck around 2500rpms the fuel mileage increase in really noticeable....

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I don't understand why changing the gear ratio to 4.56s would be better for hwy cruising? I thought the higher gear ratios (3.73, 3.42, etc.) would be better for cruising? The deeper/lower gears keep the RPMs up. Doesn't make sense to me.



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With my truck it would constatly shift between gears when cruising at 70-75mph.... And the truck would bearly turn 1900 rpms... The most effcient RPM for the HEMI engine in the 2500HD truck is a the begin of the powerband apprx 2500 rpms... This RPM is the best place to keep the engine for proper crusing power and enough torque to keep the engine from chanig RPM due to changes in the road elvation. Now the problem is to run at 2500 rpms with factory gears you would be cruising well over the speed limit apprx 95-100 mph.... So regearing is a must to keep your engine in the best RPM range and to remain in the 75MPH speed bracket...

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Engines run better when they are in the correct power band. He is saying his motor is running higher rpms around 2500 and in a better part of the band leading to better fuel/motor effiency. Driving this truck around at 70 with 3.73's it runs around 2000 rpm. Which on some engines can create ineffiency's. This suprised me I thought the rpm's would be higher. I do not believe the 28 mile a gallon thing. That could be do to a speedo being off or something since the gear swap. I think if that was the case the factory would be selling them with 4.56's and a better fuel economy rating.

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I don't understand why changing the gear ratio to 4.56s would be better for hwy cruising? I thought the higher gear ratios (3.73, 3.42, etc.) would be better for cruising? The deeper/lower gears keep the RPMs up. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Modify, congrats on the truck.

Oakey, please keep us informed about your mileage. Did you have the comp. reprogrammed so the speedo would compensate for the ratio change? Also, are you running a chip? The chip in my diesel makes the overhead read that I'm getting about 5 mpg better than I really am.
I'm very interested in your responses, my wife has a hemi 4 door truck and she averages 13.5 mpg. I think her truck has 3.90:1 gears right now. If you continue to get good mileage I'll swap hers out for sure! You think just turning off the OD would give similar results?
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I would turn the OD off and see if you gained anything at all. I bet 10 to 1 that you loose MPG.

I wish they would quit calling it a HEMI, that is blasphemy!!
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You can't honestly believe that a simple gear swap would improve the trucks fuel efficiency over 100%!! The 06 (CAR'S) w/ the multi-displacement hemi don't even get that!!I'm sure if a simple gear swap was all it took to get the hemi from 12-15mpg up to 28mpg the guru's over @ dodge would know about it and there would be know need for the multi-displacement motors!!!! I'm still going to call on this one simply because I have owned one and know exactly how they perform!!! just my 2cents
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