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Old 09-11-2007, 10:05 PM   #1
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lookin for a simpler more umph solution.

I am already running a complete pump to steering box to assist ram AGR Rock Ram hydro assist on the new jeep. What I need to now is if I replace the Howe steering box with an orbital valve will the ARG ram be able to handle the steering dutys by its self? It is a single piston ram not a double ended one like a full hydro unit.

Anyone that has gone full width on a jeep knows that the steering on them brings the suck. I 'm allready running high steer arms with the drag link going strait to the knuckle, and the tie rod behind it going from knuckle to knuckle.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:37 AM   #2
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What size ram do you have?

rod diameter =
bore diameter =
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a few of things to note-first, the valve you want is called a "metering valve", not a "orbital valve" this is a common mistake...the difference is, in case you were wanting to know, an orbital valve is a direction fluid control valve that only controls fluid in one direction-think on/off-metering valves control fluid 2 or more directions,like for steering or other applications..the misconception comes from the style of input-rotory action(info I gathered from my local hydro expert-he works at V&S Industial here in Amarillo)
Second- As I understand the AGR set up, the cylinder used for their assist is probably not up to the task for real offroad use as a stand alone unit...You will likely need to step up to a minimum cylinder of 1.5" bore w/ .75 rod set up around a max psi of 1500/2000 .....I used to run a 2" bore/1" rod 2500psi max Prince brand cylinder that was controled by a Japanese Eaton metering valve fed by a stock Saginaw P/S pump.....paid $80 and some change for the ram at a Co-op in Altus,OK, (new) gave $50 for the valve used that came with part of the old column( got it at a forklift bone yard) and my pump was already there...oh, all the lines and fittings were made/came from/by V&S, and the total on that was like $47 and change...All this was pushing around 52" XZL's on GMC 2.5 tons under my old K5 truggy.....ONE FINGER where ever I wanted to go on the wheel and it was SWEET....Pics of it are in the Gallery under the First CRRC evnt folder(sorry, ???link??)
Third, "full hydro" means no mechanical conection, only the fluid control- The set up I think you were refering to is the double ended ram(like monster trucks use and comp buggies and Gorrilla's K5 truggy)There are literally hundreds of options to look into limited only by how much cash you can spare....

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