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Who Goes To Red River/Eagle Nest?

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Old 09-09-2007, 11:03 PM   #1
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Who Goes To Red River/Eagle Nest?

And if you do and haul the bikes or head into the back country to do whatever, it appears to be the time that you let your voice be heard.

The U.S.F.S. is conducting an inventory of all the routes in their system throughout the country. This will lead to new designations of these routes for future use, i.e. trails are going to get shutdown.

If that's a little hard for you to stomach, the El Dorado National Forest in California has hit crunch time regarding the process. As it currently stands, there's over 2,500 miles of trails that will be shutdown. That means no bikes, quads, 4wd vehicles, NOTHING. The El Dorado National Forest also enjoys a very large contingent of folks who are taking up the fight against the tree huggers on this one. http://www.preserveourtrails.com/ shows what they are fighting against out there.

Meanwhile, back here, for those of us who are familiar with Red River know that it's just a quaint little mountain resort town that relies on the tourist dollars of us from out of state. A quick observation of vehicles around town (this includes Eagle Nest also) tells a person that the vast majority of folks are from Texas and Oklahoma.

This area will need our help to keep the place open for us and the future generations to enjoy.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:46 AM   #2
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and closer to home.........

Route Designation Workshop For Land Managers, OHV Enthusiasts and Other Stakeholders

September 27 – 30, 2007

The Lone Star Convention & Expo Center
9055 F. M. 1484
Conroe, TX 77303

Agency Personnel - Thursday, September 27, 8AM - 5PM & Friday, September 28, 8AM - 1PM

Public - Saturday, September 29, 8AM - 5PM & Sunday, September 30, 8AM - 3:30PM

The National Off-Highway Vehicle Conservation Council (NOHVCC), in cooperation with the Angelina, Davy Crockett, Sam Houston and Sabine National Forests is conducting a Motorized Route Designation Workshop in September for agency personnel and other stakeholders. The purpose of this workshop is to assist the Forest Service and other stakeholders in effective implementation of the USFS Travel Management Rule in their State. While the sessions on Thursday and Friday are designed primarily for Forest Service personnel and the sessions on Saturday and Sunday are designed primarily for the public, the sessions are open to all who want to attend and there is no charge. Continental breakfast will be served at 7:30 AM each day. Lunch and breaks will also be provided.

Registration is required on-line at:


Or you may visit www.nohvcc.org and click on the “Forest Service OHV Route Designation Workshops and Database” link to register.

The registration deadline is September 17, 2007. For questions about registration contact Ann Vance at 888-458-0131 or e-mail [email protected] .

NOHVCC has secured a limited number of rooms at the Holiday Inn Express, 2240 Stoneside Road, Conroe TX 77303, phone 936-788-5200. These rooms are on a first come basis at the rate of $79.00 + tax per night. Ask for the NOHVCC room block. Deadline for this rate is August 26. After that date, call for price and availability.

This national workshop series is sponsored by the Americans for Responsible Recreational Access (ARRA), the Motorcycle Industry Council (MIC) and the Specialty Vehicle Institute of America (SVIA). Coordination of the workshops is provided by the NOHVCC. Design of the workshop sessions was a collaborative effort by professional trail consultants, ARRA, MIC, SVIA, American Motorcyclist Association (AMA), Blue Ribbon Coalition (BRC), United Four Wheel Drive Associations (UFWDA), and NOHVCC, with input from USFS trail managers.

The Agency Workshop objectives are:

• To develop a better understanding of the needs and concerns of OHV enthusiasts and other stakeholders in implementation of the USFS Travel Management Rule
• To improve the quality and the sustainability of trails, trail systems and areas through the implementation process
• To improve OHV enthusiast and other stakeholder input and support for the implementation process
• To increase partnerships between the USFS, the OHV industry, OHV enthusiasts and other stakeholders
• To facilitate better communication between the USFS, OHV enthusiasts and other stakeholders

OHV Enthusiasts and Other Stakeholders Workshop objectives are:

• To develop an understanding of the FS Travel Management Rule
• To help OHV enthusiasts and other stakeholders become more active in route designation decisions
• To help OHV enthusiasts and other stakeholders understand how to improve the quality and sustainability of trails, trails systems and areas through the implementation process
• To increase partnerships between the USFS, the OHV industry, OHV enthusiasts and other stakeholders
• To facilitate better communication between the USFS, OHV enthusiasts and other stakeholders

The National Off-Highway Vehicle Conservation Council is a non-profit educational foundation. For information regarding NOHVCC and its workshop programs visit its website at:


Anyone who is interested in more OHV riding trails in Tejas should make it a priority to attend this conference. We all understand that Tejas has very little public lands and the land for OHVing is miniscule compared to the size of our state. But when the National Forest is FINALLY beginning to realize that they need to provide some riding opportunities and is ASKING for comments and holding a conference to discuss your NEEDS and WANTS....SOMEBODY better show up!!

Find out what the USFS is planning for OHV in Tejas to, what they're thinking. Tell them what your thinking, what you want and need. These are YOUR National Forests, funded by YOUR TAXES. Use them or lose them!

The USFS asked for public comments on the proposed new OHV area in the Angelina NF and got very few. If USFS holds this conference to discuss what we, the OHV community in the state of Tejas wants, and we don't say anything, we don't show up, what will they think about the need for OHV trails in the NFs?

They will just think that the birders, the hikers, the mountain bikers, that all show up and talk with them, they want trails. When the OHV community don't show up, don't talk with them, the USFS will think the OHV riders don't want OHV trails in the NFs..... Are they right?

Granted there are some OHV trails in the Sam Houston NF, but don't we want some in the other national forests as well? How about Davy Crockett, Angelina, Sabine? When it comes to OHV riding opportunities isn't it, the MORE, the BETTER? Don't be afraid to stand up and say so! If you don't ask fro more trails, (or even comment), you'll NEVER more!! We may not keep the ones we have now.

Show the Forest Service that we want more OHV trails and we can be responsible for helping them manage those trails as well. If nobody shows up, I can almost guarantee you that you'll have trails CLOSING- not MORE TRAILS OPENING! Even if just one person form your club shows up, that’s okay. One conference attendee can represent all the members of your club.

I strongly encourage you to attend this conference, even if just for one day. I cannot over emphasize how important this is. PLEASE don't miss the opportunity to work within the system.


Steve T. the RockMan
Austin MotoSports Association
Texas Motorized Trails Coalition
Texas Parks & Wildlife OHV Program Manager

..........Now granted...it may appear that Texas' forests are only gonna be for use by bikes and atvs. Dosen't mean things can't change. If a room full of jeep folks show up to support the motorcycle trails and ask for jeep trails...it may help.
any of ya'll that can make this meeting , please do.
Laura White
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