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Old 05-30-2010, 08:08 PM   #1
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Brakes for Rocks on the Street.

Anyone here had a rig with rockwells underneath that was driven on the street on a regular basis? If so, what type of brakes did you have, pinion or disc/drum brakes at each corner? How did the vehicle act in traffic, highway, etc.?

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always wondered that myself...can't recall ever seeing anything with rocks cruizin around.
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The two that I've seen running on the street have discs on all four corners.
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The guy I got my one tons from went with rocks and is running discs and drives it on the street regularly. I'll see if I can get in touch with him and get some feedback.
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disc at all four corners. if i remember right w/ f650 disk & caliper. need to machine the hat of the rotor.
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Mine is driven on the road. Almost Daily. Probably every other day. It is all stock Well, except for the super singles and it will get up to 68mph and stops great loaded or not.

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Mine is driven on the road. Almost Daily. Probably every other day. It is all stock Well, except for the super singles and it will get up to 68mph and stops great loaded or not.

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The two that I've seen running on the street have discs on all four corners.
What setup are you using and what are they under.

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The guy I got my one tons from went with rocks and is running discs and drives it on the street regularly. I'll see if I can get in touch with him and get some feedback.
That would be great Ryan!

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disc at all four corners. if i remember right w/ f650 disk & caliper. need to machine the hat of the rotor.
I've read about those on pirate, just wondering how they actually perform on a daily driven and relitavity light weight vehicle.

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Mine is driven on the road. Almost Daily. Probably every other day. It is all stock Well, except for the super singles and it will get up to 68mph and stops great loaded or not.

Very nice duece, these will be going under a rig not quite that big and less the 2nd axle in the back.



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The question is what is going on in your little mind right now Eric.....who cares about the brakes!
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These look pretty sweet.
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I would be affraid to run pinion brakes on the street. They heat up way too fast for traffic. Ovuerson Enginnering makes a nice wheel brake set up.
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Didn't know that about pinion brakes, thanks for the heads up. OEM makes some nice stuff, but very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.



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Lot of guys running the school bus rotors and ford f-550 or f-650 caliapers. Thing is most wheel brakes for rocks, you have to run a 20" rims. to clear the brake parts.
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I don't believe pinion brakes are legal for street use, if it originally came with wheel brakes then they are required. There is a F-350 I see in College Station that is running Rockwells and he has 4-wheel disc brakes but I don't know what set up he used.
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I don't believe pinion brakes are legal for street use, if it originally came with wheel brakes then they are required. There is a F-350 I see in College Station that is running Rockwells and he has 4-wheel disc brakes but I don't know what set up he used.
law states something like "brakes must stop all wheels"

I can say this ,you don't want to run pinion brakes with open diffs.
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I don't believe pinion brakes are legal for street use, if it originally came with wheel brakes then they are required. There is a F-350 I see in College Station that is running Rockwells and he has 4-wheel disc brakes but I don't know what set up he used.
But rockwells didnt come from the factory with disc brakes, they were drum.
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20.02 Brakes. Every passenger car, truck, bus, school bus, and motorcycle shall be equipped with brakes acting on all wheels <


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Brake System: A combination of one or more brakes and their related means of operation and control.



Service Brake System: A brake system used for retarding, stopping, and controlling the vehicle under normal operating conditions. This brake is sometimes referred to as “foot brake.”
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20.02 Brakes. Every passenger car, truck, bus, school bus, and motorcycle shall be equipped with brakes acting on all wheels <


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Brake System: A combination of one or more brakes and their related means of operation and control.



Service Brake System: A brake system used for retarding, stopping, and controlling the vehicle under normal operating conditions. This brake is sometimes referred to as “foot brake.”
Clear as mud.

So.....A pinion brake acts on both (all) wheels.
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Personally it doesn't matter to me if it's legal, I live in a pretty small town and don't have to worry about it being checked that close. I just care about it stopping like a regular 3/4 or 1 ton pickup would, safety is more important on this rig than anything else since I will be driving it on the highway quite a bit.

It would be great to hear some feedback from some that are using the F650 rotors and calipers! Anyone??????



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I think if you had vented rotors and had the rear welded and front detroited it would work fine. the rotor are going to be spinning almost 7 times fast than a wheel brake though so you mite be limited on how many hard stops you can do in a row.
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Had a friend around here that used the f650 stuff on a 94 extended cab chevy on 52" michellins. Stopped fine and actually drove pretty good. I do believe he had to upgrade to a bigger master cylinder to make them work right. He was welded in both front and rear, but had lock out hubs up front. Would walk around a little on ya being welded in the rear, but it was surprisingly easy to drive. On the other hand, I've run pinion brakes on the street too. All I can say is DON'T do it...lol!!!
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