Steering Flip?

WheelsUp · 04-13-2012, 11:32 AM

Ok I have looked at it and tried to vision this a couple different ways and cant seem to figure out how to get my steering rod out of the way!!!! I thought about drilling the ends out and flipping it into a makeshift hi-steer setup, but then it gets into my pinion disc.... so I was wanting to either flip my steering to the back side of the axle, or put the pinion disc on the backside of the axle... but I havent seen anyone doing it this way so I figured I would see if you guys had any ideas? I have thought about welding a slider all the way across the bottom, but just dont really want to....

for your info- I have it setup as a drivers drop, so everything is setup on the front of the axle now..... I have went thru 3 stock replacements, and I sleeved one of them with some 1.5" HREW, and it only lasted one trip also!!

I guess most of it is my fault, because I live by the rockwells rules of wheeling!!! first try- slow and steady.... second try- bump it.... third try- GET OUT THE WAY!!!

Mitch · 04-13-2012, 12:42 PM

Just flip it around to the back of the axle.

Bunker Buster · 04-13-2012, 01:19 PM

Like Mitch said, flip it to the back side. As long as you have it on the front, you'll bend it. Nathan has a solid rod sleeved with 1.5" 1/4 wall square tubing and his still bent.

72blazer · 04-13-2012, 01:49 PM

Mine is flipped.

Mitch · 04-13-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72blazer

Mine is flipped.

And so is his steering. As seen in this pic.

Mitch · 04-13-2012, 01:53 PM

From the factory, 2.5 tons are passenger drop with the drag link trailing the axle.

crewcab88 · 04-13-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

And so is his steering. As seen in this pic.

...

.....

72blazer · 04-13-2012, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

And so is his steering. As seen in this pic.

oh dang is old Mitch coming back around?? I wouldn't want kinder gentler Mitch getting his pannies in a wad when I

on him....

Mitch · 04-13-2012, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72blazer

oh dang is old Mitch coming back around?? I wouldn't want kinder gentler Mitch getting his pannies in a wad when I

on him....

Rebelrider · 04-13-2012, 04:04 PM

I'm pretty sure he can't flip the steering, due to clearance with his link bars.....

72blazer · 04-13-2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

No drpepper ?? This is strange

Mitch · 04-13-2012, 04:51 PM

No, I gave the

to you, you would give me the Dr. Pepper.

51JeepWillys · 04-13-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch

No, I gave the

to you, you would give me the Dr. Pepper.

You will have to excuse him Mitch. He rides the short bus to work...

WheelsUp · 04-14-2012, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelrider

I'm pretty sure he can't flip the steering, due to clearance with his link bars.....

That is another problem.... That is why I was thinking of moving the brake to the back of the axle, and hi-steering the drag link on the front, but I am sure I would still end up hitting it, just not as often as I do now- which is EVERY time I go wheeling!I get home on the 5th, so I will pull it back in the shop and take a better look at what I can actually do.... maybe a 1-link is in my future.... then the links wont be in the way to move the steering behind the axle!!!

72blazer · 04-14-2012, 08:20 AM

Double ended ram with a skidplate...not sure a 1 link would work for that high of a truck??

WheelsUp · 04-14-2012, 09:37 AM

I dont like my current front suspension setup, I would like it to move better- hence the 1-link idea... but being that I sit just under 10' tall I can see that being an issue in itself!!! I would like to bring it down some anyways though... I would just have to move uhhhh, pretty much everything!! I am only home for a little while at a time... so I will just keep breaking it and letting it sit for now, I am in the process of getting my brother in laws FJ40 right now, so I may retire my dodge from roadtrips and just beat it up in the backyard from now on if I can build the FJ!!

Jeet · 10-31-2012, 08:45 AM

sorry for bringing up an old thread but im running into this too. my steering is out front but brakes are on back side. I want to flop those around. Am i able to just swap knuckles from side to side to put the steering behind the axle?

RamRock · 10-31-2012, 12:14 PM

First idea
Add a push bar, it sets under the steering linkage. Needs to be thick wall tubing, it keep stuff from hit your steering link.
And you can flip your steering link on top of the knuckle arms to. I dont think there tapered holes..

Second idea
You could flip your knuckle arms to the back of the axle. But it giving a funny steering acermen. But your rig has long wb and rear steer so it want affect your rig that much.

On my rig i just went high steer arms with a brace bracket tied into the stock arm.
I have the rotor on the back to. and i machined the pinion flange ear off and moved the DE ram up next to it. And added a .250 wall pusher bar under it all.

But now i want my DE ram higher. On the same plan as my steering linkage and move clearance. So im going to do some machining on my pinion shaft and shorten the lenght and move the ram up higher. OTC make a cool DE ram bracket the mounts to the third. That gets your ram up high and close to the axle.

And move your ram out on the same line as your linkage or at a angle. Before you break your knuckle off or kill the busting.

72blazer · 11-01-2012, 10:39 AM

What? I'm interested to hear what you have to say, seriously, but wtf...

Mitch · 11-01-2012, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72blazer

What? I'm interested to hear what you have to say, seriously, but wtf...

Anytime he posts, I pretty much move right on by it. It saves me a headache.

RamRock · 11-01-2012, 12:06 PM

Ok guys i tired to clear things up some. I have pics but there on my old phone and i havent pull them over to my new phone to up load them.

ontherun · 11-03-2012, 09:10 AM

LEAVE RAMROCK ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!! no really, my eyes hurt from that..Dam Ram spellcheck will ya...good info though..once I got through it...L

51JeepWillys · 11-04-2012, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontherun

LEAVE RAMROCK ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!! no really, my eyes hurt from that..Dam Ram spellcheck will ya...good info though..once I got through it...L

Spelling is fine, it's the making since part that needs help

Big4x4ride · 11-04-2012, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51JeepWillys

Spelling is fine, it's the making since part that needs help

Making sense would work too.. You two can attend grammar lessons together.

Eye thank eye no wat wons wood wurk goodest four ewe to guyz..

51JeepWillys · 11-04-2012, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big4x4ride

Making sense would work too.. You two can attend grammar lessons together.

Eye thank eye no wat wons wood wurk goodest four ewe to guyz..

Never said I was a good speller

04-13-2012, 12:42 PM	#2
Mitch Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Azle Posts: 11,141	Just flip it around to the back of the axle. __________________ Thanks, Smokey! 1. 84 Yota - one ton swap - in progress 2. 65 V-dub Class 5 Unlimited #524 Baaad Sheep Racing Jeeps are for girls And guys that wish they were girls..... Automatic transmissions are gay. Flipped up tow mirrors are the sagging pants of the truck world. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

04-13-2012, 01:19 PM	#3
Bunker Buster Gonzo Wheeler Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Blue Ridge, Tx Posts: 2,375	Like Mitch said, flip it to the back side. As long as you have it on the front, you'll bend it. Nathan has a solid rod sleeved with 1.5" 1/4 wall square tubing and his still bent. __________________ Fawker Fab 3 seater Buggy - Buster II 498 Stroker BBC/pane/465/Fawker Fab Doubler/One Tons/Detroits/Chromos/Longfields/16" FOA Coilovers/18" air shocks/one link/three link/42" PBR's and lots of throttle. When all else fails, give it hell. Push it to the Limit with RevLimit Off Road! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

04-13-2012, 01:49 PM	#4
72blazer Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Real South Texas Posts: 7,127	Mine is flipped. __________________ The Web Wheeler's '72 Motorsport Syndicate:::Edinburg TX H&H Fabrication:::Amarillo TX Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

04-13-2012, 01:53 PM	#6
Mitch Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Azle Posts: 11,141	From the factory, 2.5 tons are passenger drop with the drag link trailing the axle. __________________ Thanks, Smokey! 1. 84 Yota - one ton swap - in progress 2. 65 V-dub Class 5 Unlimited #524 Baaad Sheep Racing Jeeps are for girls And guys that wish they were girls..... Automatic transmissions are gay. Flipped up tow mirrors are the sagging pants of the truck world. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

04-13-2012, 04:04 PM	#10
Rebelrider Gonzo Wheeler Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vidor,TX Posts: 2,892	I'm pretty sure he can't flip the steering, due to clearance with his link bars..... __________________ 94' Toyota LQ4/Atlas/Tons Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

04-13-2012, 04:51 PM	#12
Mitch Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Azle Posts: 11,141	No, I gave the to you, you would give me the Dr. Pepper. __________________ Thanks, Smokey! 1. 84 Yota - one ton swap - in progress 2. 65 V-dub Class 5 Unlimited #524 Baaad Sheep Racing Jeeps are for girls And guys that wish they were girls..... Automatic transmissions are gay. Flipped up tow mirrors are the sagging pants of the truck world. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

04-14-2012, 08:20 AM	#15
72blazer Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Real South Texas Posts: 7,127	Double ended ram with a skidplate...not sure a 1 link would work for that high of a truck?? __________________ The Web Wheeler's '72 Motorsport Syndicate:::Edinburg TX H&H Fabrication:::Amarillo TX Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

04-14-2012, 09:37 AM	#16
WheelsUp Trail Blazer Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kempner,TX-Dubai,U.A.E. Posts: 610	I dont like my current front suspension setup, I would like it to move better- hence the 1-link idea... but being that I sit just under 10' tall I can see that being an issue in itself!!! I would like to bring it down some anyways though... I would just have to move uhhhh, pretty much everything!! I am only home for a little while at a time... so I will just keep breaking it and letting it sit for now, I am in the process of getting my brother in laws FJ40 right now, so I may retire my dodge from roadtrips and just beat it up in the backyard from now on if I can build the FJ!! __________________ Derrek, Some people spend their money on stuff that looks nice but they never use.... I spend my money on stuff I can abuse!! OFFROADING~'98 Dodge, Rockwells, 47's, Exo-Cage, TooMuchWheelbase- work in progress.. But aren't they all!! TUGGING~ '05 Dodge 3500, CTD, SRW- soon to be DRW(ok not soon, but the next time I get home!) KRUZING~ '59Impala, '56Pickup, '50Styleline, '00 slammed dually Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

10-31-2012, 08:45 AM	#17
Jeet Rock Monkey Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: spring Posts: 139	sorry for bringing up an old thread but im running into this too. my steering is out front but brakes are on back side. I want to flop those around. Am i able to just swap knuckles from side to side to put the steering behind the axle? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

10-31-2012, 12:14 PM	#18
RamRock Flex Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Montgomery,TX Posts: 1,332	First idea Add a push bar, it sets under the steering linkage. Needs to be thick wall tubing, it keep stuff from hit your steering link. And you can flip your steering link on top of the knuckle arms to. I dont think there tapered holes.. Second idea You could flip your knuckle arms to the back of the axle. But it giving a funny steering acermen. But your rig has long wb and rear steer so it want affect your rig that much. On my rig i just went high steer arms with a brace bracket tied into the stock arm. I have the rotor on the back to. and i machined the pinion flange ear off and moved the DE ram up next to it. And added a .250 wall pusher bar under it all. But now i want my DE ram higher. On the same plan as my steering linkage and move clearance. So im going to do some machining on my pinion shaft and shorten the lenght and move the ram up higher. OTC make a cool DE ram bracket the mounts to the third. That gets your ram up high and close to the axle. And move your ram out on the same line as your linkage or at a angle. Before you break your knuckle off or kill the busting. __________________ ____________________________ 01 RAM 24v Krawlerhauler 97 RAM 4x4 7'in 318/nv4500/231hd 85 Truggy 42"s, Rockwell's, 4.3-th350-Doubler Pics Link Texasoffroad.net/galleries/lonestar/RAMROCK Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook Last edited by RamRock; 11-01-2012 at 12:04 PM..

11-01-2012, 10:39 AM	#19
72blazer Wheels 4 Food Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Real South Texas Posts: 7,127	What? I'm interested to hear what you have to say, seriously, but wtf... __________________ The Web Wheeler's '72 Motorsport Syndicate:::Edinburg TX H&H Fabrication:::Amarillo TX Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

11-01-2012, 12:06 PM	#21
RamRock Flex Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Montgomery,TX Posts: 1,332	Ok guys i tired to clear things up some. I have pics but there on my old phone and i havent pull them over to my new phone to up load them. __________________ ____________________________ 01 RAM 24v Krawlerhauler 97 RAM 4x4 7'in 318/nv4500/231hd 85 Truggy 42"s, Rockwell's, 4.3-th350-Doubler Pics Link Texasoffroad.net/galleries/lonestar/RAMROCK Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Facebook

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