The TMTC is a non political entity and as such won't push anything that is the only thing I don't like about the TMTC.Hatch said:TMTC has, is, and will work closely with TPWD to establish a park and/or trail system in Texas for OHVs. It can't happen overnight and have a chance at lasting long. It's an evolution, but it IS happening fast enough that I can see results (as a TMTC Director). Splintering the offroad community's efforts (by forming other organizations to pester TPWD), will most likely hurt the cause.
TMTC does not seek to FORCE the state and parks dept. to get on the ball by throwing a temper tantrum. We would rather persuade with a diplomatic style of "pressure" because we are intelligent enough to recognize that we need TPWD as a PARTNER, not an enemy, to make a state OHV park system a reality.
I actually do look around for land and such. I work with land developers, title companies, and enviro nazi's. I always ask them to pitch me info to properties. I have yet to find any property that would be worth (or cheap enough) to invest in. If and when I do, I will inform these orgs about it. I have a small lead on some south Texas property (+/- 30,000 acres) that is owned by Capitol Aggregates. I know they lease it out but I am not to sure about who to contact yet.Hatch said:TMTC is a group of private citizens. Join the group and make a difference if you have a better idea.
You can't do what you are intending to do as a 501c3. The IRS will not grant you a charitable status if you participate in political activism. I'm sure you've read the law and noted that you are allowed to participate in a limited amount of political advertising to promote community goodwill, not a particular candidate or campaign, but in practice, you'll search hopelessly to find a 501c3 that has survived the IRS gauntlet when they actually try it.ratbasturd said:Myself(in Austin) and some others( in San Antonio) are in the process of starting an Off-highway vehicle association right now, have obtained a DBA as Texas Off-Highway Vehicle Association, and are in the process of incorporating the name. It will be a 501C-3 organization capable of giving tax credit for donations.
No apologies are needed, Bobby. That's what this forum is for to open up and discuss the issues that affect all of us in the wheeling community. I think it would be great if we could all come to some type of agreement \ understanding where we can all work together to grow and create more parks. Everybody has different points of view and ideas on how to best make this happen. By open discussion such as this we can all learn each others views and ideas.Bobby said:I'd like to apologize to the Staff of this fine message board site for stepping in and rattling up any trouble with my comments....it was not my intention to make work for you guys! Thanks for offering this town hall where free men can speak...it deserves more recognition than it ever gets...
Please don't talk down to me Mr. Airplane, I'm not chunking spears so I don't need your condescending attitude. I can dig up the IRS pages stating that you can assume limited political involvement with the proper filingsBobby said:You can't do what you are intending to do as a 501c3. The IRS will not grant you a charitable status if you participate in political activism. I'm sure you've read the law and noted that you are allowed to participate in a limited amount of political advertising to promote community goodwill, not a particular candidate or campaign, but in practice, you'll search hopelessly to find a 501c3 that has survived the IRS gauntlet when they actually try it.
If you want to survive, you'll have to file as a 501c4...a public welfare org...and then you can do whatever you want with the money you raise and you don't have to file jack with the IRS. But, you're pushing against a wave of support from TPWD toward the TMTC, that will most probably overwhelm your pirate ship and result in even more support for the TMTC, so go for it.
As I've told you already, you can't use the corp identity for Texas OHV Assn...so stop promoting the idea that you can.
You may own the DBA in your county, but you can't get the corp identity. Even if the SOS office doesn't notice right away, if you publish it as an entity, you're infringing on state corp rights law. You already know this...so why do you continue to think we'd let you file that similar of a corp identity?
The Texas Offroad Network owns the corp name rights to Texas OHV and Texas ORV....or any variations that represent or closely resemble those acronyms...and I WILL file a petition against you if you use it. It costs me nothing to petition against you and I can file with a simple phone call and an online form during my lunch hour, but if you insist on being hard headed and wasting your time, go for it.
OK...that should ruin my reputation for awhile....I'm outa here...
Laurathebum said:"We all know about how much TMTC does around the state"
You knew what Bobby's been doing...he just told you some..he's also writing grants for other offroad endeavours
You know what Carol's been doing in regards to legislature and insurance and the LRAP and the Canadian River and Kermit...and her efforts in locating new land
You know what Leslie is doing with the Forest Service
You know what Steve is doing with the dirtbike crowd
You know my dealings with distributers ..or Cisco
...Or do you just know what the guys in East Texas are doing at BMRA?
Nothing yet, we aren't even an official organization at this time. You make yourself look like an uneducated fool with comments like that.Hatch said:And what has your group done for a large number of wheelers in
texas? You haven't done anything for me, so I guess (by your standards) your group is ineffective.
Russ,ratbasturd said:What's your point?
I think I already stated that I really don't care what TMTC is doing, they are no longer a concern of mine.
Here is something I do know, there are a large number of wheelers in Texas that feel TMTC does nothing for them.
That is all.