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Old 08-13-2006, 05:01 PM   #1
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Because I'm not driving the blazer anytime soon I've been shooting alot of video. I was wanting talk to other people about video editing, music, and the shooting of the film. If you are out shooting film or just watching I would like your input here. What kind of music do you like or would like to hear? Do you like more action, or just short clips of the action. I seen clip the other day with the trail name in it. This is just some of the thing we can talk about in this thread. Everyone feel free to join in!


Me: When I put a video clip together for the web I will take a hour of video and shorten it down to 5-9 mins. First I will pick a song from my library of music. Then depending on how fast the song is will how long I stay on any given rig in my clips. I try to use the beat of the music to change clips, but if it is something that doesn't quite work out for me I just use one of those transitions thingies.
The editing software I use is MS Move Maker. It allows me to add music, do Title and Audio overlays. It also comes with lots of special effects and a story board like you like that kind of thing.
The only thing I don't like about editing is lestioning to the song I'm using over and over.
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In my editing experience (not much), I have tried to put the music that describes the mood but then you get into what I have described as "gay" music like I used a fast paced cherry poppin daddies song for one of my clips and I kinda feel bad when it starts playing cause it is too something. The other is the fact that when I put an audio track on the video it masks some funny or cool stuff, like smart *** comments from the filmaker or the crowd or even the driver. My wife has to edit videos for her classes at college and she is getting really good at it, storyboarding, audio entrances, undertoned music tracks, fades, etc, etc. Maybe she will teach me once things settle down at the house. My problem is the camera that i video with is a super 8 and getting it into my computer is a major pain, now that last month our comp crashed and she removed my inputs to send it off, now I will prolly have to video it with her dvd recorder camera, maybe she will give it to me and buy herself one for other stuff. I am so computerly retarded that I have troubel saving things right or getting then on the right drive and stuff she just has to sit down and walk me through it some. I am trying to figure out what would be better a tripod next the obstacle with a fixed postistion or a dash cam, bumper cam, cage cam, or a split screen driver view and forward view, I think I am gonna get a helmet cam and use a solid state hard drive to record onto for the bumps and bangs, I have tried to figure up what people wanna see but it is hard cause I wheel by myself a lot on my family ranch at west texas so I guess a tripod would work good. Oh well enough rambling.

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Old 08-13-2006, 08:27 PM   #3
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I perfer the sound of the rig over the music. But i put music in the background. If I could edit better...I would do just the meat of the run and not so much the potatos.
I'm no video man...ask Rastus..I'm sure he can tell you I suk at trying to hold the cam still.
anyway, post up a vid when your done.
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Old 08-13-2006, 08:58 PM   #4
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I'm uploading it now. I try to do mostly meat, but I like to do some slow stuff at the starts. In Cream Puffs first run, I had a long shot of Kevin driving his Black jeep up and the guys looking at there rigs. I kind of did the same for the Clayton run with the guys unloading their rigs at the cabin and driving down the road.
I'm using a Sony Handycam Hi8 to shoot my video with. The problem I have on most trails is being able to get far enough away to get the whole rig in the shot.
I have never used a tripod before on the trails. I think I am already getting on there nerves asking then to wait untill I'm ready to film, or asking then to back up so I can set my shot up.
A trick I use to keeping the camera still is to flip the viewer up 90* and hold the camera against my body. That works really well when zooming out really far, plus it put the camera lower to the ground and gets a better shots of the axles flexing.
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would like to see if there is a tripod that mounts in your ride, I see a couple of in cab action shots and wonder how they mounted the camera??

As well would like more info on how to vidoe edit/music you mention, ?

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Old 08-13-2006, 09:32 PM   #6
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There is a vendor on CK5 that sells carmeras that mount in your rig. They are not cheap, but are set up to do split views and other stuff. here is the link.
Do you have Microsoft Movie Maker? If so it comes with tutorial that will explane how to edit your movie. Really all it is to is to upload your flim to the program. It will split it up to different clips for you. Then you can put the clips on to a time line. Same with the music, just upload it to the program and and add it to the program. It is just something you have to play around with.

I like to hear the sound of the rigs too. When we went to Clayton I played back the flim for the guys that night, but they liked it better after I cut the slow parts out and changed the order up a lot. But it was the music in the background that really helps.
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As I've mentioned before the software I use is VT formerly known as Video Toaster. It's one of the products we manufacture where I work. there are tons of things that can be done in the program that I'm not even aware of yet.. It's very cool and quite expensive, If I was not working there I would'nt have it.. but since I work there.....

right now I don't have a video camera, I use River Rats VHS camcorder and most of the videos I have done were taken by either him or one of the other members in the Midnight Fourwheelers. I've got tons of footage that I'm still going thru. I'd like to get a nice camera, preferably one that shoots in HD aka High Definition, but those are not cheap either, so I'm still saving up.

Like Mudgod I like to try and match the music to the action in the video, it's a lot easier said than done tho. I'm looking at different places that have royalty free music you can buy and or download.

My goal is to do a 1-2 hr DVD of the Midnight Fourwheelers and also one of the Texas4x4.org runs. that's gonna be a while in the making but it's gonna be a good one when finished.

Another good program is DVD workshop. You can build your own menus and such after you have rendered your movie or video. You can create different chapters and more.

Question for you... When you render your video, what codecs are you using?
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:43 AM   #8
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What are the codecs?
Your right about how hard it is to match the music to the action, but with MS Movie Maker you can see the beats of the music in the audio line.
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Rastus, I found out on Sunday if I use MS Movie Maker I can get the file size way down before I do anything with it. That's good news for you, because now I can upload the footage before I do anything with it. I never could do that before. It may not be as good as mailing you the tapes, but it should be the next best thing. Just take a while to down load 50mb of stuff, and upload.
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What are the codecs?
A Codec is a device or program capable of performing encoding and decoding on a digital data stream or signal. The word "codec" is a portmanteau of any of the following: 'Compressor-Decompressor', 'Coder-Decoder', or 'Compression/Decompression algorithm'.

Codecs encode a stream or signal for transmission, storage or encryption and decode it for viewing or editing. Codecs are often used in videoconferencing and streaming media solutions. A video camera's ADC converts its analog signals into digital signals, which are then passed through a video compressor for digital transmission or storage. A receiving device then runs the signal through a video decompressor, then a DAC for analog display. A "codec" is a generic name for a video conferencing unit.

An audio compressor converts analog audio signals into digital signals for transmission or storage. A receiving device then converts the digital signals back to analog using an audio decompressor, for playback.

The raw encoded form of audio and video data is often called essence, to distinguish it from the metadata information that together make up the information content of the stream and any "wrapper" data that is then added to aid access to or improve the robustness of the stream.

Most codecs are lossy, in order to get a reasonably small file size. There are lossless codecs as well, but for most purposes the almost imperceptible increase in quality is not worth the considerable increase in data size. The main exception is if the data will undergo more processing, especially editing, in the future, in which case the repeated lossy encoding could degrade the quality of the eventual file too much. Using more than one codec or encoding scheme throughout processing can also degrade quality but there are many situations where this cannot be avoided. There are many codecs which are designed to emphasize certain aspects of the media to be encoded. For example, a digital video (using a DV codec) of a sports events like baseball or soccer need to encode motion well but not necessarily exact colors, where a video of an art exhibit needs to perform well encoding color and surface texture. There are hundreds or even thousands of codecs ranging from free ones to ones costing hundreds of dollars or more.

Many multimedia data streams need to contain both audio and video data, and often some form of metadata that permits synchronization of the audio and video. Each of these three streams may be handled by different programs, processes, or hardware; but for the multimedia data stream to be useful in stored or transmitted form, they must be encapsulated together in a container format.

An endec is a similar (but not identical) concept for hardware.

While many people explain that AVI is a codec, they are incorrect. AVI (nowadays) is a container format, which many codecs might use (although not to ISO). There are other well known alternative containers such as Ogg, ASF, QuickTime, RealMedia and MP4.
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this is cool

http://www.droppix.com/produit.php?a...faq&produit=10
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Wow, you guys are getting technical. I use MS Movie Maker and I love it. I just wish there were more transitions and credit formats available. As far as the music goes, I feel that it sets the mood of the video. But hey, that's just my opinion. I've seen the videos that MUDGOD makes and they are great especially the one with the Black Jeep . I also use Roxio DVD creator to build the DVD's it seems to be an easy enough program to use.
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We will soon be releasing a new program called SpeedEdit. Suggested retail is around $495.00 it will do SD and HD both. you can mix and match plus it will include a full range of DVE's and other really cool stuff.
This is pure software, so if you are using a older camera you will still need a way to capture your video.


Here's a short demo on SpeedEdit from Siggraph

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

NewTek Develops a Faster Way to Edit Multi-Definition Video

NewTek SpeedEDITâ„¢ bridges support between Standard and High Definition Video

San Antonio, Texas – August 1, 2006-- As standard definition video is being replaced with High definition, many production facilities must still utilize their existing content libraries. NewTek SpeedEDIT allows producers to mix multiple formats (avi, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, QuickTime) and multiple resolutions (SD 4:3, SD 16:9, HD 720p and 1080i) on the same timeline without transcoding or rendering.

SpeedEDIT helps producers by editing the full-resolution video in real-time, within its dual timeline and storyboard interface, bypassing any intermediate transcoding or pre-trimming. SpeedEDIT further accelerates the editing process by dynamically linking Storyboard and Timeline, allowing many common editing functions in fewer steps. Ripple edits, clip replacement, segment repositioning, 3D video rotation, color correction, animated titles and Targa sequence playback are just a few of the routine tasks that SpeedEDIT performs faster than any other professional editing package.

“SpeedEDIT is a valuable tool for the production industry during this transition from SD to HD,” says Philip Nelson, Vice President of Sales & Video Marketing for NewTek. “SpeedEDIT helps you craft the story without regard to format or resolution, easily mixing SD archive with newer HD clips in the same project so you can concentrate on the message, instead of the medium.”

Key SpeedEDIT features include:

Resolution Independence – edit anything from web streams to HD
Mix SD and HD clips in the same project
Supports all frame-rates and resolutions
16:9 and 4:3 aspect support
Support for MPEG-2, HDV, DV, AVI, QuickTime, Flash and more
Project output via FireWire to camera or deck
Real-time 3-wheel color correction
Advanced 4-band selective color selection
Multi-threaded software optimized with dual-core computers
Pricing and Availability
SpeedEDIT will be available summer 2006 and will retail for $495. For more information, please visit http://www.newtek.com or call NewTek Sales at 1-800-368-5441, international callers dial +1-210-370-8000. To locate a NewTek Authorized Reseller, please visit http://www.newtek.com/dealers, or to locate a NewTek International Distributor, please visit http://www.newtek.com/dealers/international.php

About NewTek
With headquarters in San Antonio, Texas, NewTek is a leading provider of full-featured video editing, live production, presentation and visual effects tools including TriCaster™, VT[5]™, SpeedEDIT™, 3D Arsenal™ and LightWave 3D®.
Website: http://www.newtek.com/

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