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Old 05-09-2011, 05:16 PM   #1
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In the Army we have AARs after events to improve on what we do in the future. We really need to know what went right and what went wrong. No matter how hard we try there can always be things to improve upon. Please post you comments on what we can do better and what we need to continue to do.
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First off, job well done. Events like this just don't fall in place, they take effort and it was apparent you guys put forth alot.
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Wounded warrior pick up should be closer to the tent so they can remain in the shade and seated until their ride (red, white or blue) becomes available.
Possibly run two pick up lines, one on each side of tent to expedite getting soldiers out on trails.

Sustain: everything else. Especially the color staging
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First off, job well done. Events like this just don't fall in place, they take effort and it was apparent you guys put forth alot.
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Wounded warrior pick up should be closer to the tent so they can remain in the shade and seated until their ride (red, white or blue) becomes available.
Possibly run two pick up lines, one on each side of tent to expedite getting soldiers out on trails.

Sustain: everything else. Especially the color staging
great idea

my only idea isnt for the staff but the drivers ... PLEASE clear out ALL your seats .. your chairs or soft doors in the back seat makes it hard to get everyone on the trail together ... I thank all the drivers and staff for a GREAT event ... I hope to be in the trails nexted year .. but I did out 30 mile on my 60 running the RR from the main tent to camp B
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Drivers need to consider whether they are there for the soldiers and families or if they are there for some sort of ego boost before signing up in the future. If your main objective was to go out and have a good time with your friends, the park was open to the public so there was no need for you to waste others time by volunteering. I will not name vehicles but feel that you know who you are! I will get into more detail on this subject next year before registration begins and to those who actually took guest out and gave them a good time THANK YOU!!!!!! I hope to see y'all again next year!


p.s. I do agree we need some sort of shade for the guest but as far as the trucks go we put lots of effort into this year’s set up and it went up in smoke within a couple of minutes so I cannot imagine making it more complex in the near future…

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Drivers need to consider whether they are there for the soldiers and families or if they are there for some sort of ego boost before signing up in the future. If your main objective was to go out and have a good time with your friends, the park was open to the public so there was no need for you to waste others time by volunteering. I will not name vehicles but feel that you know who you are! I will get into more detail on this subject next year before registration begins and to those who actually took guest out and gave them a good time THANK YOU!!!!!! I hope to see y'all again next year!


p.s. I do agree we need some sort of shade for the guest but as far as the trucks go we put lots of effort into this year’s set up and it went up in smoke within a couple of minutes so I cannot imagine making it more complex in the near future…

I think a man at the top ... would work real well ... and if there was one this time then we should pick a different one
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:01 PM   #6
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there was one, i think one for each color may be necessary and more trail leaders...
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Drivers need to consider whether they are there for the soldiers and families or if they are there for some sort of ego boost before signing up in the future. If your main objective was to go out and have a good time with your friends, the park was open to the public so there was no need for you to waste others time by volunteering. I will not name vehicles but feel that you know who you are! I will get into more detail on this subject next year before registration begins and to those who actually took guest out and gave them a good time THANK YOU!!!!!! I hope to see y'all again next year!


p.s. I do agree we need some sort of shade for the guest but as far as the trucks go we put lots of effort into this year’s set up and it went up in smoke within a couple of minutes so I cannot imagine making it more complex in the near future…


Please elaborate.

The jist I have gotten through the grape vine is that it is a total cluster..... as far as taking our proud service men and women out on the trail.
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I think the trail leaders lined up at the the bottom so they can bet put with the groups would help alot... Snick yes the great plan fell apart very fast and the drivers all
Just started down all at once not keeping in level matched groups AND alot came to the bottom loaded
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Event was a big success. Had about 150 soldiers and families with about 500 total attendees. Have received many Great comments. For our 3rd year, event has improved. The WFTW committee will continue to learn and improve the event.

The main disappointment I have was some drivers didn't do their part. TAKE soldiers and thier families out on trails.

Thanks to everyone that made this great event possible for our soldiers and their families.

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The event was great and went very well these are small detail in a very big event ... A job well done to all involved
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I argree, there were drivers there that only were there to drive with their buds and not on the trails they signed up for or to take passengers out. There were rigs without open seats at all. I also ran into drivers on the trails with open seats and on trails they didn't belong on (a stock FJ on a red trail?) holding up folks from moving.

I think that drivers need to do one traill and then back for more riders. I'm guilty of doing two trails and because of the backups on the trails it took me about 2 hours to run what would normally take me about 45 min.

I like the idea of the shade for the waiting riders. I'm not sure we could load them straight out of the pavillion though. Too many people, activities and kids.

Please remember that this thread is for constructive criticisim, no slams please. Everyone involved has volunteered their time and money to put this thing on and have asked nothing in return. All we really want to do is make this better in the future for the soldiers and their families.
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:53 AM   #13
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We took out 3 Soldiers with us as well as the Dealer, Spirit of Liberty lady. We kept the soldiers with us the entire time. They did most of the driving. This was not my intended plan. I had hoped to get a good look at how the Staging area was set up and run. I did talk with others that I know where there last year and what I heard is that it went smoother than last year.

My wife talked to several of the ladies left behind and couple of them were pissed at their husbands for leaving them. She found that odd, so maybe there was a communication problem and the Event is not being completely understood in that area. With our group it is always understood. I think next year we might want to try to promote the volunteer area for "Extras" and try to create a place for them so they are not left out.

One major complaint I kept hearing was not enough Port o Pots at either location. We need more at the Pavilion for sure, those were next to overflowing.

One thing I am going to start working on is a Garbage sponsor. They are easy to pick up and will usually bring out "Clean" Stations for hand washing. If someone can find out what trash service the park uses I can start there. I have worked with LESI quite bit in the past and have had great success with them.
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The only real issue I had was with the staging area for the pickup of the soldiers. Given the easy access to three sides of the pavillion, an area could be designated for pickup on three sides (one side for white, one side for blue and one side for red) and the soldiers could stay in the pavillion to where they could be in the shade until pickup. The drivers could line up in the same place as this year and each color could have a traffic cop as you would say, to direct the flow so things didn't get slammed and you could be loading more than one group at a time.

The midway point at camp B was a great idea, because when I broke it was nice to be able to shuttle the soldiers back to the midway point so they didn't have to wait on me while I tried to repair my junk.

This was still a truly great event and I am already looking forward to next year.
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I think the event went well. There were some issues, my group went first and it was supposed to be red group to go down first and pick personell up. So it kinda got jacked up from the beginning. 2nd we showed up for the drivers meeting and they didn't have one, they had a trail guide meeting which we missed most of so I think this added to the confusion. They should hold the Trail Guide and drivers meeting at the same time next year. There was also a lack of trail guides. We barely knew the park and just went on the trails we had done the previous day. Also, we need to make sure that there is at least 1 parent of each child in that group, our group had 3 little boys without a parent. If something were to happen on the trail and the child need medical support we need to know all information about the child that is required by medical personell. We also need a corpsman with every group in case something should happen on the trail or at least one at the main site, I know of one person who needed there blood pressure checked and was told that we didn't have any one that could do that. So more prep on the medical side. I agree with needing more port a pottys, The bathroom and shower areas need to be attended to every 3 hrs, as they ran out of supplies and trash cans were full and just needed a general cleaning every now and then. We also need to put together some kind of portfolio of past events we can take and show the soldiers that sign up for the event. I heard we had about 80 or so pull out at the last second. I don't know what went wrong where just an idea. None of this is critisism so please don't take it that way. It was my first year to do this run and plan on going again next year. I want to thank all those that made this run possible. I know it took a lot of hard work to have this event!
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the drivers meeting was not so long after the trail guide meeting and it had a low turn out wich ties into the staging confusion, we had traffic directors but most ignored them and did what they wanted anyway. I do agree more port-a-potties and cleaning would be nice. I thought there were plenty of the volunteer medics available.
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Thank you everyone for your comments and input. We are striving to make this program as good as we can for our deserving men and women that have sacrified so much for our freedom. We will definitely take all these recommendations to the board of directors and continue to improve the WFTW program. With everyones input we can continue to improve.

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